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    Engineering Software that Dislikes Virtual Machines?

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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      @Carnival-Boy said:

      There's a difference between 'not recommended' and 'not supported'. If they only recommend you don't use a VM, I'd probably ignore their recommendation and do it anyway.

      Agreed, recommendations mean effectively nothing. They would also recommend that you pay them more.

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      • ?
        A Former User
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        Yeah. I remember seeing something like that before. It worked fine anyway. I Think it was the ArcGIS Activation Server.

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        • NetworkNerdN
          NetworkNerd
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          I went ahead and proceeded with activation despite the warning, and the software seems to function as expected for now. We'll see if that is also the case when the Engineer who needs to use it starts playing with it.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @NetworkNerd
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            @NetworkNerd said:

            In the past we have had HASP keys that had to be plugged into the server / workstation, but in this case, all we got was an activation key (no piece of hardware to go with it). But overall, when faced with using a HASP key for this kind of software in conjunction with ESXi, passing the USB drive to the VM has worked beautifully for us.

            If there is no hardware, then definitely just go for it - oh you already did.

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            • Bill KindleB
              Bill Kindle
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              @NetworkNerd said:

              The install was successful, so it is now time to activate our shiny new software. But there's one glaring problem here when I went to enter the license activation key. I'm sure someone can tell me

              I've worked around an issue similar to this by using a USB > Ethernet adapter from Digi.

              However, I didn't see what software you are using?

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              • NetworkNerdN
                NetworkNerd @Bill Kindle
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                @Bill-Kindle said:

                @NetworkNerd said:

                The install was successful, so it is now time to activate our shiny new software. But there's one glaring problem here when I went to enter the license activation key. I'm sure someone can tell me

                I've worked around an issue similar to this by using a USB > Ethernet adapter from Digi.

                However, I didn't see what software you are using?

                It's Trutops Inch from Trumpf in this case.

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                • Bill KindleB
                  Bill Kindle @NetworkNerd
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                  @NetworkNerd said:

                  @Bill-Kindle said:

                  @NetworkNerd said:

                  The install was successful, so it is now time to activate our shiny new software. But there's one glaring problem here when I went to enter the license activation key. I'm sure someone can tell me

                  I've worked around an issue similar to this by using a USB > Ethernet adapter from Digi.

                  However, I didn't see what software you are using?

                  It's Trutops Inch from Trumpf in this case.

                  I would ask them what part of virtualization do they not support. That's a really odd message.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @NetworkNerd
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                    @NetworkNerd said:

                    It's Trutops Inch from Trumpf in this case.

                    I have that installed at a client (not in a VM granted) and do not recall a USB dongle being required. But the install was quite a bit ago. maybe I lost those brain cells.

                    The final install did happen with me on a remote connection and a conference call with the Trumpf support people. It is entirely possible the user plugged in a stick to license.

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                    • NetworkNerdN
                      NetworkNerd @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch said:

                      @NetworkNerd said:

                      It's Trutops Inch from Trumpf in this case.

                      I have that installed at a client (not in a VM granted) and do not recall a USB dongle being required. But the install was quite a bit ago. maybe I lost those brain cells.

                      The final install did happen with me on a remote connection and a conference call with the Trumpf support people. It is entirely possible the user plugged in a stick to license.

                      In the past it has always been USB stick required, but in this particular case, we got a brand new laser from Trumpf and the software that goes with it. I was pretty surprised when there was no USB HASP to plug into the server since that has been the trend.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @NetworkNerd
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                        @NetworkNerd said:

                        In the past it has always been USB stick required, but in this particular case, we got a brand new laser from Trumpf and the software that goes with it. I was pretty surprised when there was no USB HASP to plug into the server since that has been the trend.

                        A few memory cells reconnected! The new licensing requires live internet activation and deactivation.

                        Shortly after we installed TruTops, the HDD in the machine died and had to be replaced. I do not normally perform full backups of user computers because it is just as easy to reinstall Office 365 anymore (this client has no other special apps).

                        I did not think about TruTops at the time. After I reinstalled, I could not license it and TruTops had to work backend stuff and required a signed statement that we had a hard crash before they would release the license and let us relicense.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said:

                          @NetworkNerd said:

                          In the past it has always been USB stick required, but in this particular case, we got a brand new laser from Trumpf and the software that goes with it. I was pretty surprised when there was no USB HASP to plug into the server since that has been the trend.

                          A few memory cells reconnected! The new licensing requires live internet activation and deactivation.

                          Shortly after we installed TruTops, the HDD in the machine died and had to be replaced. I do not normally perform full backups of user computers because it is just as easy to reinstall Office 365 anymore (this client has no other special apps).

                          I did not think about TruTops at the time. After I reinstalled, I could not license it and TruTops had to work backend stuff and required a signed statement that we had a hard crash before they would release the license and let us relicense.

                          This is becoming more and more common - but I don't think the vendors using it are doing enough to educate the users of the importance of backups in these cases for recovery.

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