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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @openit
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      @openit said in System Admin - checklist for Don'ts and Important points please!:

      but at least some of points from your bitter experience can lead me to understand different perspectives to study or research etc

      Those are tough, because our experiences are unlikely to help you. They will be with specific tech, versions, installations, configurations, etc. and following our experience might not only be non-applicable, but it might be backwards for you.

      Example... I've lost data on a RAID 5 that had no business being a RAID 5. If you try to learn from my experience, you might just avoid RAID 5, but your drives, your server, your use case have essentially zero chance of being similar to mine and RAID 5 on modern SSDs might be exactly what you need.

      Or you might think from someone's experience that doing an AD DC restore is bad and can't be done, but in your case it might easily be the right thing to do and work just fine.

      The point is, in IT you can't ever learn from peoples' experience in this way. Learning the under the hood details and understanding how things work and why experiences mean what they do is necessary for the experiences to be useful. So my RAID 5 experience would be useful to you only when you understand all the ins and outs of RAID and can see my mistake in context of both my setup and how it may or may not apply to yours.

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        Maybe I'm alone but on the top of my list:

        1. Only use Microsoft as a last resort when all other options have been explored.
        2. If you get paid by the hour disregard #1.
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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @1337
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          @Pete-S said in System Admin - checklist for Don'ts and Important points please!:

          Maybe I'm alone but on the top of my list:

          1. Only use Microsoft as a last resort when all other options have been explored.
          2. If you get paid by the hour disregard #1.

          So, so true.

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            gjacobse @1337
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            @Pete-S said in System Admin - checklist for Don'ts and Important points please!:

            Maybe I'm alone but on the top of my list:

            1. Only use Microsoft as a last resort when all other options have been explored.
            2. If you get paid by the hour disregard #1.

            Option 1. - What do you say / do when the Owner specifically states, Windows Only environment. NIX and Apply need not apply -

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              Obsolesce @gjacobse
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              @gjacobse said in System Admin - checklist for Don'ts and Important points please!:

              @Pete-S said in System Admin - checklist for Don'ts and Important points please!:

              Maybe I'm alone but on the top of my list:

              1. Only use Microsoft as a last resort when all other options have been explored.
              2. If you get paid by the hour disregard #1.

              Option 1. - What do you say / do when the Owner specifically states, Windows Only environment. NIX and Apply need not apply -

              Then it's a last resort scenario and you use Windows.

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                IRJ @gjacobse
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                @gjacobse said in System Admin - checklist for Don'ts and Important points please!:

                @Pete-S said in System Admin - checklist for Don'ts and Important points please!:

                Maybe I'm alone but on the top of my list:

                1. Only use Microsoft as a last resort when all other options have been explored.
                2. If you get paid by the hour disregard #1.

                Option 1. - What do you say / do when the Owner specifically states, Windows Only environment. NIX and Apply need not apply -

                Look for another job

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                  @gjacobse said in System Admin - checklist for Don'ts and Important points please!:

                  @Pete-S said in System Admin - checklist for Don'ts and Important points please!:

                  Maybe I'm alone but on the top of my list:

                  1. Only use Microsoft as a last resort when all other options have been explored.
                  2. If you get paid by the hour disregard #1.

                  Option 1. - What do you say / do when the Owner specifically states, Windows Only environment. NIX and Apply need not apply -

                  You say "okay, but you are the CIO because you are making the IT decisions and all risks and problems are on you because I'm just pressing the buttons you tell me to press, not running IT."

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                    @IRJ said in System Admin - checklist for Don'ts and Important points please!:

                    @gjacobse said in System Admin - checklist for Don'ts and Important points please!:

                    @Pete-S said in System Admin - checklist for Don'ts and Important points please!:

                    Maybe I'm alone but on the top of my list:

                    1. Only use Microsoft as a last resort when all other options have been explored.
                    2. If you get paid by the hour disregard #1.

                    Option 1. - What do you say / do when the Owner specifically states, Windows Only environment. NIX and Apply need not apply -

                    Look for another job

                    An IT job, rather an a hobby. An owner doing that is 1) running IT and 2) not trusting you and 3) viewing his "business" as a hobby and approaching everything around his emotions rather than making business decisions.

                    There's no purpose for IT people in a "business" like that because we don't have any value to add.

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                    • openitO
                      openit @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in System Admin - checklist for Don'ts and Important points please!:

                      @openit said in System Admin - checklist for Don'ts and Important points please!:

                      but at least some of points from your bitter experience can lead me to understand different perspectives to study or research etc

                      Those are tough, because our experiences are unlikely to help you. They will be with specific tech, versions, installations, configurations, etc. and following our experience might not only be non-applicable, but it might be backwards for you.

                      Example... I've lost data on a RAID 5 that had no business being a RAID 5. If you try to learn from my experience, you might just avoid RAID 5, but your drives, your server, your use case have essentially zero chance of being similar to mine and RAID 5 on modern SSDs might be exactly what you need.

                      Or you might think from someone's experience that doing an AD DC restore is bad and can't be done, but in your case it might easily be the right thing to do and work just fine.

                      The point is, in IT you can't ever learn from peoples' experience in this way. Learning the under the hood details and understanding how things work and why experiences mean what they do is necessary for the experiences to be useful. So my RAID 5 experience would be useful to you only when you understand all the ins and outs of RAID and can see my mistake in context of both my setup and how it may or may not apply to yours.

                      This given me clarification and agreed!

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                      • openitO
                        openit @IRJ
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                        @IRJ said in System Admin - checklist for Don'ts and Important points please!:

                        @gjacobse said in System Admin - checklist for Don'ts and Important points please!:

                        @Pete-S said in System Admin - checklist for Don'ts and Important points please!:

                        Maybe I'm alone but on the top of my list:

                        1. Only use Microsoft as a last resort when all other options have been explored.
                        2. If you get paid by the hour disregard #1.

                        Option 1. - What do you say / do when the Owner specifically states, Windows Only environment. NIX and Apply need not apply -

                        Look for another job

                        Lol 🙂

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