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      Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      Double spacing is from the hand written era. It continued into the typewriter era. It continued into the computer era. It's how the language has always been written. It is not an artifact of typewriters no matter what BS someone is trying to sell you.

      Surely it's from the typesetting era? You can't have a double or single space with hand-writing, you can only have a space of undefined size.

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        scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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        @Carnival-Boy said:

        Surely it's from the typesetting era? You can't have a double or single space with hand-writing, you can only have a space of undefined size.

        I left much more space between sentences when handwriting than between words. I think that most people do. I was taught to do that. Apparently that became wrong at some point, but handwriting normally looked that way,

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          For example, that is double spacing between sentences...

          handwriting.jpg

          Looks normal, right?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            But if you go back to medieval handwriting, spacing was rare. So maybe the printing press with movable type introduced the idea. If it did it was over 500 years ago. My guess is that it came about with handwriting first, but near to the same time. They would not have done it in print for no reason, it took extra effort and cost more.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Of course, handwriting has never been about good legibility anyway...

              1847-sample1.jpg

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                Of course, handwriting has never been about good legibility anyway...

                1847-sample1.jpg

                No Sh*t, right!

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  There is a reason that I don't handwrite things. It's just a way of torturing the people that you make attempt to read it.

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                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    There is a reason that I don't handwrite things. It's just a way of torturing the people that you make attempt to read it.

                    Yeah I'm in the same boat. When I was signing the contracts for my mortgage, the lender asked me to not use my actual signature and instead write my name in normal cursive... LOL

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Ha ha, I can't even do that anymore. I've not used cursive since elementary school. It has no purpose anywhere else. Why did it even exist except to be pretentious. It's never been easy to read.

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                        thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Ha ha, I can't even do that anymore. I've not used cursive since elementary school. It has no purpose anywhere else. Why did it even exist except to be pretentious. It's never been easy to read.

                        Signatures. That's the only reason left.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          My signature would be a stretch to call cursive.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            There is a reason that I don't handwrite things. It's just a way of torturing the people that you make attempt to read it.

                            Including myself.....

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                              scottalanmiller
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                                nadnerB
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                                The common comma:
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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  Like Cursive, there are so many things you're forced to do in school that seem to have little actual relevance or need - the format of siting requirements for research papers, as an example.

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                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Like Cursive, there are so many things you're forced to do in school that seem to have little actual relevance or need - the format of siting requirements for research papers, as an example.

                                    That's a good one. Never used that in college, never would you ever use it in real life. An entire "skill" whose only purpose is to distract you from useful learning in high school. It's trivial to teach yet takes lots of effort on the students' part - exactly the kind of time wasting that teachers look for. Requires no effort or knowledge on the part of the teacher and offers a nearly limitless opportunity to mark off for something that doesn't matter rather than needing to read and comprehend what was actually written.

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                                      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      Like Cursive, there are so many things you're forced to do in school that seem to have little actual relevance or need - the format of siting requirements for research papers, as an example.

                                      That's a good one. Never used that in college, never would you ever use it in real life. An entire "skill" whose only purpose is to distract you from useful learning in high school. It's trivial to teach yet takes lots of effort on the students' part - exactly the kind of time wasting that teachers look for. Requires no effort or knowledge on the part of the teacher and offers a nearly limitless opportunity to mark off for something that doesn't matter rather than needing to read and comprehend what was actually written.

                                      Cursive is good to help you with creating a signature. That's it.

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                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        Like Cursive, there are so many things you're forced to do in school that seem to have little actual relevance or need - the format of siting requirements for research papers, as an example.

                                        That's a good one. Never used that in college, never would you ever use it in real life. An entire "skill" whose only purpose is to distract you from useful learning in high school. It's trivial to teach yet takes lots of effort on the students' part - exactly the kind of time wasting that teachers look for. Requires no effort or knowledge on the part of the teacher and offers a nearly limitless opportunity to mark off for something that doesn't matter rather than needing to read and comprehend what was actually written.

                                        Not just high school - I'm taking a few courses now.. and they college profs want it too... hell, they even have a website they suggest you use to put it into the 'correct' format. College is definitely 20+ years behind the times!!

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                                          Carnival Boy
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                                          I had to look up cursive. You mean what we call 'joined up writing'? How else do you write if not joined up (ie each letter in a word joins with the next)?

                                          Unless I'm missing something.

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                                            coliver @Carnival Boy
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                                            @Carnival-Boy said:

                                            I had to look up cursive. You mean what we call 'joined up writing'? How else do you write if not joined up (ie each letter in a word joins with the next)?

                                            Unless I'm missing something.

                                            I haven't written cursive since grade school... even my signature is something that can be barely called cursive. When I write (which is basically never) I write in print or block, which is much easier to read, although my handwriting is abysmal.

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