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@Obsolesce said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
Can't we just get past the fact things there are the way they are, he has no power over any of it, and isn't able to expose any of it for fear of prematurely losing his job? I mean, what is there left to discuss of this?
There has been a bit of his bosses convincing him that there are opportunities for him at the company and trying to get him to believe that they have logic behind things that they do. He knows it is not the best job, but is often left unsure how unethical they are and how little viable future that there is there ( a company that will screw customers will screw employees just the same.) Bad people are bad people.
Just in uncovering how bad his bosses are in this thread has lead to a significant amount of both business and technical discovery. So while it might seem like beating a dead horse to those that instantly see that the company is crooked, it's not for him because he's young and hasn't been at as many jobs to realize or have had exposed to him how out of whack this behaviour is. There is still a lot to be figured out here.
Unfortunately, not likely much for the underlying technical issue that prompted the discussion.
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@Obsolesce said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@Obsolesce said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
Can't we just get past the fact things there are the way they are, he has no power over any of it, and isn't able to expose any of it for fear of prematurely losing his job? I mean, what is there left to discuss of this?
This has been going on ever since I started this job over a year ago.
Why do you stay there and continue to deal with their shit?
Honestly? no idea.. At this point I dont have experience to go anywhere else or do anything else.
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Start an AWS lab and with the AWS foundation cets and or O365. Get into the cloud space. Even help desk seems better than this.
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@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@Obsolesce said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
Can't we just get past the fact things there are the way they are, he has no power over any of it, and isn't able to expose any of it for fear of prematurely losing his job? I mean, what is there left to discuss of this?
This has been going on ever since I started this job over a year ago.
Because you've defended them and when you repeat them lying you do so as if you are wondering if the lie is valid instead of just saying "my boss made up a blatant lie" or "I'm sure this is a lie but..."
When you repeat a lie and don't point out it is a lie, it essentially requires a discussion about why the quote isn't factual.
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@Obsolesce said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
Can't we just get past the fact things there are the way they are, he has no power over any of it, and isn't able to expose any of it for fear of prematurely losing his job? I mean, what is there left to discuss of this?
I think we are past it, it's @WrCombs who isn't, and feels he should continue to push the better for the customer alternative when his boss has explicitly told him to not do that.
@WrCombs it may feel like we're bashing you, but instead we're telling you to simply do as your told, keep your resume up to date and find a job that makes you happy. You aren't in a position to truly help the customer.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@Obsolesce said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
Can't we just get past the fact things there are the way they are, he has no power over any of it, and isn't able to expose any of it for fear of prematurely losing his job? I mean, what is there left to discuss of this?
There has been a bit of his bosses convincing him that there are opportunities for him at the company and trying to get him to believe that they have logic behind things that they do. He knows it is not the best job, but is often left unsure how unethical they are and how little viable future that there is there ( a company that will screw customers will screw employees just the same.) Bad people are bad people.
Just in uncovering how bad his bosses are in this thread has lead to a significant amount of both business and technical discovery. So while it might seem like beating a dead horse to those that instantly see that the company is crooked, it's not for him because he's young and hasn't been at as many jobs to realize or have had exposed to him how out of whack this behaviour is. There is still a lot to be figured out here.
Unfortunately, not likely much for the underlying technical issue that prompted the discussion.
Gotcha
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@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@Obsolesce said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@Obsolesce said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
Can't we just get past the fact things there are the way they are, he has no power over any of it, and isn't able to expose any of it for fear of prematurely losing his job? I mean, what is there left to discuss of this?
This has been going on ever since I started this job over a year ago.
Why do you stay there and continue to deal with their shit?
Honestly? no idea.. At this point I dont have experience to go anywhere else or do anything else.
Right, he wants to leave. But not badly enough. That's why these threads matter. He has bosses above him that try to convince him that they aren't as bad as they are. He's trapped there for now, he can't just leave. If he was free to relocate we had a job for him two weeks ago that would have been a zero discussion "here's your new job" situation. But he couldn't take it. He's in a terrible market without a lot of experience.
But he needs to internalize just how bad these people are and how important it is for his long term career growth to be really aggressive in trying to escape.
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@DustinB3403 said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@WrCombs it may feel like we're bashing you, but instead we're telling you to simply do as your told, keep your resume up to date and find a job that makes you happy. You aren't in a position to truly help the customer.
Right, what we are trying to do is...
- Show you the technical answers so that you can grow on the IT side. If we didn't do that, how would you learn the parts that help you get another job?
- Show you what your company is really like, because they are trying to convince you that what they are doing is okay.
- Show you how best to behave within the organization given what kind of organization they are so that you get in the least trouble and keep your job.
- Demonstrate how important it is to keep focused on finding another job ASAP not just because this one is crap, but because crap jobs hold you back long term because you don't grow at the pace that you should.
We are advocating for you, but in many directions at once.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@Obsolesce said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
Can't we just get past the fact things there are the way they are, he has no power over any of it, and isn't able to expose any of it for fear of prematurely losing his job? I mean, what is there left to discuss of this?
This has been going on ever since I started this job over a year ago.
Because you've defended them and when you repeat them lying you do so as if you are wondering if the lie is valid instead of just saying "my boss made up a blatant lie" or "I'm sure this is a lie but..."
When you repeat a lie and don't point out it is a lie, it essentially requires a discussion about why the quote isn't factual.
how do I know if it's a lie ?
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@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@Obsolesce said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
Can't we just get past the fact things there are the way they are, he has no power over any of it, and isn't able to expose any of it for fear of prematurely losing his job? I mean, what is there left to discuss of this?
This has been going on ever since I started this job over a year ago.
Because you've defended them and when you repeat them lying you do so as if you are wondering if the lie is valid instead of just saying "my boss made up a blatant lie" or "I'm sure this is a lie but..."
When you repeat a lie and don't point out it is a lie, it essentially requires a discussion about why the quote isn't factual.
how do I know if it's a lie ?
Just post some unrelated question here and we'll get to it ^_^
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@Obsolesce said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@Obsolesce said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
Can't we just get past the fact things there are the way they are, he has no power over any of it, and isn't able to expose any of it for fear of prematurely losing his job? I mean, what is there left to discuss of this?
This has been going on ever since I started this job over a year ago.
Why do you stay there and continue to deal with their shit?
Honestly? no idea.. At this point I dont have experience to go anywhere else or do anything else.
Right, he wants to leave. But not badly enough. That's why these threads matter. He has bosses above him that try to convince him that they aren't as bad as they are. He's trapped there for now, he can't just leave. If he was free to relocate we had a job for him two weeks ago that would have been a zero discussion "here's your new job" situation. But he couldn't take it. He's in a terrible market without a lot of experience.
This is news to me. . .
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@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@Obsolesce said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
Can't we just get past the fact things there are the way they are, he has no power over any of it, and isn't able to expose any of it for fear of prematurely losing his job? I mean, what is there left to discuss of this?
This has been going on ever since I started this job over a year ago.
Because you've defended them and when you repeat them lying you do so as if you are wondering if the lie is valid instead of just saying "my boss made up a blatant lie" or "I'm sure this is a lie but..."
When you repeat a lie and don't point out it is a lie, it essentially requires a discussion about why the quote isn't factual.
how do I know if it's a lie ?
Well in some cases you can figure it out because you have enough info. When you don't have that info, you can post it here and we can look at it, like what happened here.
Nothing wrong with not knowing. But you have to expect (and want) us to tear it apart if it is. Which is what happened. This is actually a really good process for you... because it...
- Teaches diagnoses of the information.
- Often requires digging into technical or legal details.
- Exposes just how much your boss will lie to you, not just the customer.
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@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@Obsolesce said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@Obsolesce said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
Can't we just get past the fact things there are the way they are, he has no power over any of it, and isn't able to expose any of it for fear of prematurely losing his job? I mean, what is there left to discuss of this?
This has been going on ever since I started this job over a year ago.
Why do you stay there and continue to deal with their shit?
Honestly? no idea.. At this point I dont have experience to go anywhere else or do anything else.
Right, he wants to leave. But not badly enough. That's why these threads matter. He has bosses above him that try to convince him that they aren't as bad as they are. He's trapped there for now, he can't just leave. If he was free to relocate we had a job for him two weeks ago that would have been a zero discussion "here's your new job" situation. But he couldn't take it. He's in a terrible market without a lot of experience.
This is news to me. . .
We knew you couldn't move so didn't rub it in your face. But we had a guaranteed slot for you in Salt Lake City.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@Obsolesce said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@Obsolesce said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
Can't we just get past the fact things there are the way they are, he has no power over any of it, and isn't able to expose any of it for fear of prematurely losing his job? I mean, what is there left to discuss of this?
This has been going on ever since I started this job over a year ago.
Why do you stay there and continue to deal with their shit?
Honestly? no idea.. At this point I dont have experience to go anywhere else or do anything else.
Right, he wants to leave. But not badly enough. That's why these threads matter. He has bosses above him that try to convince him that they aren't as bad as they are. He's trapped there for now, he can't just leave. If he was free to relocate we had a job for him two weeks ago that would have been a zero discussion "here's your new job" situation. But he couldn't take it. He's in a terrible market without a lot of experience.
This is news to me. . .
We knew you couldn't move so didn't rub it in your face. But we had a guaranteed slot for you in Salt Lake City.
Oh I gotcha.
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A place where good customer service and trying to do the right thing would have been universally appreciated
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
A place where good customer service and trying to do the right thing would have been universally appreciated
What's the job in Salt Lake ?
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@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
A place where good customer service and trying to do the right thing would have been universally appreciated
What's the job in Salt Lake ?
MSP shop that's part of the NTG extended ecosystem. It's a lot like your role now, but not PoS systems, more general IT support. It's a physical office location there. Some local customer on site work, mostly telephone and online remote support. General tech helpdesk.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
A place where good customer service and trying to do the right thing would have been universally appreciated
What's the job in Salt Lake ?
MSP shop that's part of the NTG extended ecosystem. It's a lot like your role now, but not PoS systems, more general IT support. It's a physical office location there. Some local customer on site work, mostly telephone and online remote support. General tech helpdesk.
Oh I gotcha, Yeah sounds better than what I'm doing here.
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@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
A place where good customer service and trying to do the right thing would have been universally appreciated
What's the job in Salt Lake ?
MSP shop that's part of the NTG extended ecosystem. It's a lot like your role now, but not PoS systems, more general IT support. It's a physical office location there. Some local customer on site work, mostly telephone and online remote support. General tech helpdesk.
Oh I gotcha, Yeah sounds better than what I'm doing here.
Yeah, would have been perfect.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@WrCombs said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 File and Printer Sharing wont turn on:
A place where good customer service and trying to do the right thing would have been universally appreciated
What's the job in Salt Lake ?
MSP shop that's part of the NTG extended ecosystem. It's a lot like your role now, but not PoS systems, more general IT support. It's a physical office location there. Some local customer on site work, mostly telephone and online remote support. General tech helpdesk.
Oh I gotcha, Yeah sounds better than what I'm doing here.
Yeah, would have been perfect.
Oh Well.
Maybe I should just quit and start working on NTG sales here in Omaha.
