Mobile Computing for Medical



  • @scottalanmiller said in All New VoIP Handsets for PBX Migration?:

    Imagine going to your doctor and then carrying in a laptop that they lug everywhere and have to plug in. Imagine how foolish that looks to the customers.

    I see this at hospitals all the time - laptops on carts.
    Granted I also see computers attached to the wall all the time too. But in those cases, they are almost exclusively Citrix Receiver connecting to an RDS server.

    Our users aren't so mobile to the point the patients seeing the plug/unplug the power cords... each person typically moves only once a day.

    I would love to give them all a Surface like device (not a Surface specifically) - something with all day battery life, and light and easy to take into the patient room so they can collect vitals, etc directly into the computer, but that would raise our laptop prices 40% or more.

    Also our clinic space has two people working in a pod - one typically sitting at the desk the entire shift - so that position could easily be on a desktop, the other is standing the entire time - this would require mounting a monitor on an arm, then having a keyboard and mouse on the desk. Sure this is doable also, but seems much less flexible. For example - on days we don't have doctors, currently the staff can take their laptop and sit down and work anywhere. If they don't have assigned laptops, and instead we only had the hard mounted stations, we'd have to either drastically increase the number of computer we have, or the staff would have to stand at those desks to work while the doc is out of the office.



  • I see lots of things in hospitals that make me worried that they are incompetent and incapable. Just because someone else fails, don't justify failing ourselves.



  • @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    Our users aren't so mobile to the point the patients seeing the plug/unplug the power cords... each person typically moves only once a day.

    Ah, okay. Silly still, but not nearly as bad. but laptops are still expensive and cumbersome. They could have nicer equipment with bigger screens and better keyboards for less money.



  • @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    I would love to give them all a Surface like device (not a Surface specifically) - something with all day battery life, and light and easy to take into the patient room so they can collect vitals, etc directly into the computer, but that would raise our laptop prices 40% or more.

    Why? Sounds like the perfect job for a Chromebook Tablet. $350 or less. Battery goes ten hours, touch screen, tablet form factor.



  • @scottalanmiller said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    I would love to give them all a Surface like device (not a Surface specifically) - something with all day battery life, and light and easy to take into the patient room so they can collect vitals, etc directly into the computer, but that would raise our laptop prices 40% or more.

    Why? Sounds like the perfect job for a Chromebook Tablet. $350 or less. Battery goes ten hours, touch screen, tablet form factor.

    Because the vendor solution doesn't support Chromebooks. The users need to be able to print to a dymo labeler via the app - this requires an add-on module that the webpage interacts with. There is no module for Chromebooks.



  • @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @scottalanmiller said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    I would love to give them all a Surface like device (not a Surface specifically) - something with all day battery life, and light and easy to take into the patient room so they can collect vitals, etc directly into the computer, but that would raise our laptop prices 40% or more.

    Why? Sounds like the perfect job for a Chromebook Tablet. $350 or less. Battery goes ten hours, touch screen, tablet form factor.

    Because the vendor solution doesn't support Chromebooks. The users need to be able to print to a dymo labeler via the app - this requires an add-on module that the webpage interacts with. There is no module for Chromebooks.

    Would standing up an RDS server be cost prohibitive? Use RemoteApps on current laptops until it's time to upgrade them to Chromebooks?



  • @dafyre said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @scottalanmiller said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    I would love to give them all a Surface like device (not a Surface specifically) - something with all day battery life, and light and easy to take into the patient room so they can collect vitals, etc directly into the computer, but that would raise our laptop prices 40% or more.

    Why? Sounds like the perfect job for a Chromebook Tablet. $350 or less. Battery goes ten hours, touch screen, tablet form factor.

    Because the vendor solution doesn't support Chromebooks. The users need to be able to print to a dymo labeler via the app - this requires an add-on module that the webpage interacts with. There is no module for Chromebooks.

    Would standing up an RDS server be cost prohibitive? Use RemoteApps on current laptops until it's time to upgrade them to Chromebooks?

    With the software requiring Windows, yes it'll be very expensive.



  • @DustinB3403 said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @dafyre said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @scottalanmiller said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    I would love to give them all a Surface like device (not a Surface specifically) - something with all day battery life, and light and easy to take into the patient room so they can collect vitals, etc directly into the computer, but that would raise our laptop prices 40% or more.

    Why? Sounds like the perfect job for a Chromebook Tablet. $350 or less. Battery goes ten hours, touch screen, tablet form factor.

    Because the vendor solution doesn't support Chromebooks. The users need to be able to print to a dymo labeler via the app - this requires an add-on module that the webpage interacts with. There is no module for Chromebooks.

    Would standing up an RDS server be cost prohibitive? Use RemoteApps on current laptops until it's time to upgrade them to Chromebooks?

    With the software requiring Windows, yes it'll be very expensive.

    How is that a factor? RDS is Windows regardless of what the end points need.



  • @scottalanmiller said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @DustinB3403 said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @dafyre said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @scottalanmiller said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    I would love to give them all a Surface like device (not a Surface specifically) - something with all day battery life, and light and easy to take into the patient room so they can collect vitals, etc directly into the computer, but that would raise our laptop prices 40% or more.

    Why? Sounds like the perfect job for a Chromebook Tablet. $350 or less. Battery goes ten hours, touch screen, tablet form factor.

    Because the vendor solution doesn't support Chromebooks. The users need to be able to print to a dymo labeler via the app - this requires an add-on module that the webpage interacts with. There is no module for Chromebooks.

    Would standing up an RDS server be cost prohibitive? Use RemoteApps on current laptops until it's time to upgrade them to Chromebooks?

    With the software requiring Windows, yes it'll be very expensive.

    How is that a factor? RDS is Windows regardless of what the end points need.

    Huh?

    The licensing for Windows RDS would be a huge cost increase from what dash is using today. One computer per employee.

    Plus he'll need a place to host the RDS environment which may or may not need its own equipment.



  • @DustinB3403 said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @scottalanmiller said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @DustinB3403 said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @dafyre said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @scottalanmiller said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    I would love to give them all a Surface like device (not a Surface specifically) - something with all day battery life, and light and easy to take into the patient room so they can collect vitals, etc directly into the computer, but that would raise our laptop prices 40% or more.

    Why? Sounds like the perfect job for a Chromebook Tablet. $350 or less. Battery goes ten hours, touch screen, tablet form factor.

    Because the vendor solution doesn't support Chromebooks. The users need to be able to print to a dymo labeler via the app - this requires an add-on module that the webpage interacts with. There is no module for Chromebooks.

    Would standing up an RDS server be cost prohibitive? Use RemoteApps on current laptops until it's time to upgrade them to Chromebooks?

    With the software requiring Windows, yes it'll be very expensive.

    How is that a factor? RDS is Windows regardless of what the end points need.

    Huh?

    The licensing for Windows RDS would be a huge cost increase from what dash is using today. One computer per employee.

    Plus he'll need a place to host the RDS environment which may or may not need its own equipment.

    Of course, but when looking at RDS you have that licensing either way.



  • @dafyre said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @scottalanmiller said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    I would love to give them all a Surface like device (not a Surface specifically) - something with all day battery life, and light and easy to take into the patient room so they can collect vitals, etc directly into the computer, but that would raise our laptop prices 40% or more.

    Why? Sounds like the perfect job for a Chromebook Tablet. $350 or less. Battery goes ten hours, touch screen, tablet form factor.

    Because the vendor solution doesn't support Chromebooks. The users need to be able to print to a dymo labeler via the app - this requires an add-on module that the webpage interacts with. There is no module for Chromebooks.

    Would standing up an RDS server be cost prohibitive? Use RemoteApps on current laptops until it's time to upgrade them to Chromebooks?

    Is your suggestion to move to chromebooks AND RDS? With the lower cost of Chromebooks, it might be cost effective to have an RDS server to solve the windows requirements.

    That said - The vendor directly states it's customers should not use RDS.

    Not saying it can't be done.



  • @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @dafyre said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @scottalanmiller said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    I would love to give them all a Surface like device (not a Surface specifically) - something with all day battery life, and light and easy to take into the patient room so they can collect vitals, etc directly into the computer, but that would raise our laptop prices 40% or more.

    Why? Sounds like the perfect job for a Chromebook Tablet. $350 or less. Battery goes ten hours, touch screen, tablet form factor.

    Because the vendor solution doesn't support Chromebooks. The users need to be able to print to a dymo labeler via the app - this requires an add-on module that the webpage interacts with. There is no module for Chromebooks.

    Would standing up an RDS server be cost prohibitive? Use RemoteApps on current laptops until it's time to upgrade them to Chromebooks?

    Is your suggestion to move to chromebooks AND RDS? With the lower cost of Chromebooks, it might be cost effective to have an RDS server to solve the windows requirements.

    That said - The vendor directly states it's customers should not use RDS.

    Not saying it can't be done.

    Man that vendor really hates you.



  • @scottalanmiller said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @dafyre said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @scottalanmiller said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    @Dashrender said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    I would love to give them all a Surface like device (not a Surface specifically) - something with all day battery life, and light and easy to take into the patient room so they can collect vitals, etc directly into the computer, but that would raise our laptop prices 40% or more.

    Why? Sounds like the perfect job for a Chromebook Tablet. $350 or less. Battery goes ten hours, touch screen, tablet form factor.

    Because the vendor solution doesn't support Chromebooks. The users need to be able to print to a dymo labeler via the app - this requires an add-on module that the webpage interacts with. There is no module for Chromebooks.

    Would standing up an RDS server be cost prohibitive? Use RemoteApps on current laptops until it's time to upgrade them to Chromebooks?

    Is your suggestion to move to chromebooks AND RDS? With the lower cost of Chromebooks, it might be cost effective to have an RDS server to solve the windows requirements.

    That said - The vendor directly states it's customers should not use RDS.

    Not saying it can't be done.

    Man that vendor really hates you.

    yeah - I told you - they are making a custom version of Chromium because they keep running into issues every time that Google updates Google Chrome.

    I have no idea how far behind in updates that athena will be compared to the actual Chromium status.

    AND - it only works in Windows - still requiring the add-on I mentioned in the other thread to use devices.



  • @scottalanmiller said in Mobile Computing for Medical:

    Man that vendor really hates you.

    I was going to say the same thing.

    The next thing out of this vendor will be that they only support Windows NT . .


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