Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be
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@guyinpv said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
I know a lot of responses here might be "just leave", but these things are easier said than done. I don't want their business to suffer, nor our relationship, nor my reference with them.
So there is only 1 option. Outline that you have every aspect of your job outlined in <location>, you're willing to assist in training someone during the remaining 2 weeks at the current position and will be leaving on <date>.
If your incompetent boss refuses to understand the documentation you have drafted that is on her.
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Question - did you give two weeks? or did you simply inform them you are looking for other employment and will be leaving when you find it?
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@Dashrender said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
Question - did you give two weeks? or did you simply inform them you are looking for other employment and will be leaving when you find it?
If he did the latter he deserves this as punishment for being an ID!0+.
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@Dashrender said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
Question - did you give two weeks? or did you simply inform them you are looking for other employment and will be leaving when you find it?
He gave six months!
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@scottalanmiller said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
@Dashrender said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
Question - did you give two weeks? or did you simply inform them you are looking for other employment and will be leaving when you find it?
He gave six months!
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Seriously?!
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@scottalanmiller said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
@Dashrender said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
Question - did you give two weeks? or did you simply inform them you are looking for other employment and will be leaving when you find it?
He gave six months!
Actually, he didn't give any notice.
The way it reads to me is he went to his boss and talked about leaving at some point.
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I'd honestly just retract the 6 month leave notice and leave today. I know many people can't live without a paycheck for more than 2 weeks but I can get by.
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TLDR OP, but I dont have to because I already know what bloodsuckers like that do!
The worse job I ever had did the same thing. I volunteered to stay an additional two days (my saturday and sunday) and they worked me like a dog those two days. Never being satisfied. On Sunday after 10 hours, I just got up and left.
Then they proceeded to call me for the next the month! Like a dumb idiot, I answered the calls and spent my new employers time trying to help for a little bit. They kept wanting more and more. Claiming it was the last time they'd call, but it never was. One day I stopped answering the phone and never spoke to those people again! Most liberating feeling ever.
Now when I think back on it, the only regret I have is giving them any additional time, or any additional help.
Now here is my TLDR:
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Always worry about YOU. Your employer could terminate you at any given moment for any reason, and they will always do this to save their company. I mean you cant blame the employer for doing what it needs to do to survive. YOU must be the same way. YOU do what is best for your interests. When you have a good employer, your interests align with the company interests 99% of the time.
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Dont be afraid to say NO. Say NO early and say it often. Do not sugarcoat shit and do not do anything for free. With every concession you make, you are weakening your position with the company IMO. Concessions should only be made when there is no other option and YOU are paid for it.
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@JaredBusch said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
@scottalanmiller said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
@Dashrender said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
Question - did you give two weeks? or did you simply inform them you are looking for other employment and will be leaving when you find it?
He gave six months!
Actually, he didn't give any notice.
The way it reads to me is he went to his boss and talked about leaving at some point.
Right - so did Scott get a PM with info saying 6 months? or is that purely a guess?
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@guyinpv said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
Frankly, this is just ridiculous to me. I'll be here for the next 6 months just writing stuff over and over that I've already written, while getting chided because IT stuff is too hard for laypersons.
Or was the 6 month line taken from that bit. Where @guyinpv is saying it would take 6 months to rewrite all of this how my crazy ex-boss wants it
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@JaredBusch said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
@scottalanmiller said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
@Dashrender said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
Question - did you give two weeks? or did you simply inform them you are looking for other employment and will be leaving when you find it?
He gave six months!
Actually, he didn't give any notice.
The way it reads to me is he went to his boss and talked about leaving at some point.
Ah, I misunderstood.
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@DustinB3403 said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
I'd honestly just retract the 6 month leave notice and leave today. I know many people can't live without a paycheck for more than 2 weeks but I can get by.
Sounds like there was no notice, so he just needs to find a job, give his notice and GTFO.
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@scottalanmiller said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
@DustinB3403 said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
I'd honestly just retract the 6 month leave notice and leave today. I know many people can't live without a paycheck for more than 2 weeks but I can get by.
Sounds like there was no notice, so he just needs to find a job, give his notice and GTFO.
So his new job responsibilities if he wants a paycheck now fall under "job duties as assigned" by his manager.
So get cracking @guyinpv you've got a lot of documentation to rewrite.
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See, so the issue now lies in that, his job responsibilities include making sure that the non-technical people can do his job.
That is his new job role, plain and simple.
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@IRJ said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
TLDR OP, but I dont have to because I already know what bloodsuckers like that do!
The worse job I ever had did the same thing. I volunteered to stay an additional two days (my saturday and sunday) and they worked me like a dog those two days. Never being satisfied. On Sunday after 10 hours, I just got up and left.
Then they proceeded to call me for the next the month! Like a dumb idiot, I answered the calls and spent my new employers time trying to help for a little bit. They kept wanting more and more. Claiming it was the last time they'd call, but it never was. One day I stopped answering the phone and never spoke to those people again! Most liberating feeling ever.
Now when I think back on it, the only regret I have is giving them any additional time, or any additional help.
Now here is my TLDR:
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Always worry about YOU. Your employer could terminate you at any given moment for any reason, and they will always do this to save their company. I mean you cant blame the employer for doing what it needs to do to survive. YOU must be the same way. YOU do what is best for your interests. When you have a good employer, your interests align with the company interests 99% of the time.
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Dont be afraid to say NO. Say NO early and say it often. Do not sugarcoat shit and do not do anything for free. With every concession you make, you are weakening your position with the company IMO. Concessions should only be made when there is no other option and YOU are paid for it.
And if you DO take ANY calls....
- Never take time away from your current employer, not a single second.
- Decide on and publish a fee up front. Is $50/hr enough? Maybe $100/hr?
- Make sure that they get in writing that you bill starting when they call you, not when you respond. Just calling you costs them money, they are interrupting you, you deserve compensation even moreso than when you were a salaried employee.
- Consider a retainer so that they can't stiff you. If they don't pay, block their calls. If they try to work around, get a restraining order.
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@DustinB3403 said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
@guyinpv said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
Frankly, this is just ridiculous to me. I'll be here for the next 6 months just writing stuff over and over that I've already written, while getting chided because IT stuff is too hard for laypersons.
Or was the 6 month line taken from that bit. Where @guyinpv is saying it would take 6 months to rewrite all of this how my crazy ex-boss wants it
Yes, I misunderstood that to be his notice period.
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@DustinB3403 said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
@scottalanmiller said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
@DustinB3403 said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
I'd honestly just retract the 6 month leave notice and leave today. I know many people can't live without a paycheck for more than 2 weeks but I can get by.
Sounds like there was no notice, so he just needs to find a job, give his notice and GTFO.
So his new job responsibilities if he wants a paycheck now fall under "job duties as assigned" by his manager.
So get cracking @guyinpv you've got a lot of documentation to rewrite.
Yes, but they also lowered his pay, so he can walk away and simply not accept the new rate. That's the problem with forced changes, the employee HAS to accept them. If they don't, then they can just leave without notice because the company, not the employee, severed the relationship. It's a form of firing. All obligations of the employee are gone until they accept the new arrangement.
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@guyinpv said in Finally leaving my job, and it's just as annoying as I thought it would be:
She wants me to write up a "function book" where I write thousands of little "how-to" articles for each "function" I perform as an IT person, but written for the layperson so they can do my job "if they had to". All the information about each vendor, plus all the functions I perform at those vendors, what it's used for, how to make changes, when to make changes, how to troubleshoot it, etc etc etc. Who has SSLs, how are they renewed, when, how...
