Rethinking my backup strategy
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@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@Obsolesce @black3dynamite so this chocolatey could be the missing bit to speedup redeployment of a win machine as I do with linux+ansible+current distro's repo... I will check it.
Oh it's amazing.
If you have Ansible already, I'm with the "only backup once in a while."
Or ever, is there really a need to backup at all?
Well Windows patching and applications install is a pita. I will look into chocolatey. Wasting a day in reinstalling stuff in attended mode is not on my plans...
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@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@Obsolesce @black3dynamite so this chocolatey could be the missing bit to speedup redeployment of a win machine as I do with linux+ansible+current distro's repo... I will check it.
Oh it's amazing.
If you have Ansible already, I'm with the "only backup once in a while."
Or ever, is there really a need to backup at all?
Well Windows patching and applications install is a pita. I will look into chocolatey. Wasting a day in reinstalling stuff in attended mode is not on my plans...
Do you have a lot of apps to install? VS is a big one, that should be able to be automated.
Would storing a copy of installers help?
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@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@Obsolesce @black3dynamite so this chocolatey could be the missing bit to speedup redeployment of a win machine as I do with linux+ansible+current distro's repo... I will check it.
Oh it's amazing.
If you have Ansible already, I'm with the "only backup once in a while."
Or ever, is there really a need to backup at all?
Well Windows patching and applications install is a pita. I will look into chocolatey. Wasting a day in reinstalling stuff in attended mode is not on my plans...
Do you have a lot of apps to install? VS is a big one, that should be able to be automated.
Would storing a copy of installers help?
VisualStudio Community is in Chocolately actually.
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@JaredBusch said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@Obsolesce @black3dynamite so this chocolatey could be the missing bit to speedup redeployment of a win machine as I do with linux+ansible+current distro's repo... I will check it.
Oh it's amazing.
If you have Ansible already, I'm with the "only backup once in a while."
Or ever, is there really a need to backup at all?
Well Windows patching and applications install is a pita. I will look into chocolatey. Wasting a day in reinstalling stuff in attended mode is not on my plans...
Do you have a lot of apps to install? VS is a big one, that should be able to be automated.
Would storing a copy of installers help?
VisualStudio Community is in Chocolately actually.
@JaredBusch said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@Obsolesce @black3dynamite so this chocolatey could be the missing bit to speedup redeployment of a win machine as I do with linux+ansible+current distro's repo... I will check it.
Oh it's amazing.
If you have Ansible already, I'm with the "only backup once in a while."
Or ever, is there really a need to backup at all?
Well Windows patching and applications install is a pita. I will look into chocolatey. Wasting a day in reinstalling stuff in attended mode is not on my plans...
Do you have a lot of apps to install? VS is a big one, that should be able to be automated.
Would storing a copy of installers help?
VisualStudio Community is in Chocolately actually.
Oh wow, cool. Had no idea.
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@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@JaredBusch said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@Obsolesce @black3dynamite so this chocolatey could be the missing bit to speedup redeployment of a win machine as I do with linux+ansible+current distro's repo... I will check it.
Oh it's amazing.
If you have Ansible already, I'm with the "only backup once in a while."
Or ever, is there really a need to backup at all?
Well Windows patching and applications install is a pita. I will look into chocolatey. Wasting a day in reinstalling stuff in attended mode is not on my plans...
Do you have a lot of apps to install? VS is a big one, that should be able to be automated.
Would storing a copy of installers help?
VisualStudio Community is in Chocolately actually.
@JaredBusch said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@Obsolesce @black3dynamite so this chocolatey could be the missing bit to speedup redeployment of a win machine as I do with linux+ansible+current distro's repo... I will check it.
Oh it's amazing.
If you have Ansible already, I'm with the "only backup once in a while."
Or ever, is there really a need to backup at all?
Well Windows patching and applications install is a pita. I will look into chocolatey. Wasting a day in reinstalling stuff in attended mode is not on my plans...
Do you have a lot of apps to install? VS is a big one, that should be able to be automated.
Would storing a copy of installers help?
VisualStudio Community is in Chocolately actually.
Oh wow, cool. Had no idea.
So is SQL Server Express.
That is how I seutp my Win 10 VM for some dev stuff.
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@JaredBusch said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@JaredBusch said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@Obsolesce @black3dynamite so this chocolatey could be the missing bit to speedup redeployment of a win machine as I do with linux+ansible+current distro's repo... I will check it.
Oh it's amazing.
If you have Ansible already, I'm with the "only backup once in a while."
Or ever, is there really a need to backup at all?
Well Windows patching and applications install is a pita. I will look into chocolatey. Wasting a day in reinstalling stuff in attended mode is not on my plans...
Do you have a lot of apps to install? VS is a big one, that should be able to be automated.
Would storing a copy of installers help?
VisualStudio Community is in Chocolately actually.
@JaredBusch said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@Obsolesce @black3dynamite so this chocolatey could be the missing bit to speedup redeployment of a win machine as I do with linux+ansible+current distro's repo... I will check it.
Oh it's amazing.
If you have Ansible already, I'm with the "only backup once in a while."
Or ever, is there really a need to backup at all?
Well Windows patching and applications install is a pita. I will look into chocolatey. Wasting a day in reinstalling stuff in attended mode is not on my plans...
Do you have a lot of apps to install? VS is a big one, that should be able to be automated.
Would storing a copy of installers help?
VisualStudio Community is in Chocolately actually.
Oh wow, cool. Had no idea.
So is SQL Server Express.
That is how I seutp my Win 10 VM for some dev stuff.
and many other things! IT has been awesome ever since I found Chocolatey!
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@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@Obsolesce @black3dynamite so this chocolatey could be the missing bit to speedup redeployment of a win machine as I do with linux+ansible+current distro's repo... I will check it.
Oh it's amazing.
If you have Ansible already, I'm with the "only backup once in a while."
Or ever, is there really a need to backup at all?
Well Windows patching and applications install is a pita. I will look into chocolatey. Wasting a day in reinstalling stuff in attended mode is not on my plans...
Do you have a lot of apps to install? VS is a big one, that should be able to be automated.
I've ton as each customer requires specific apps helpers and similar... While code.is in winform (sob) or wpf and c# or vb.net (sob), hw requires axiliary tools like native machine vision tools from the hw vendor or libraries to interface actuators or other similar stuff. Heck for a job I even had to install qgis!
Would storing a copy of installers help?
Don't know: apps get updates I should remember to store any updated installer... Maybe useful. But currently I'm going to check chocolatey first...
It seems to better fit my need of reducing backup overhead while impreving rebuild times and ansible should lead to a certain level of reproducibility too (not sure: I use it on linux only and windows modules seem quite poor) -
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
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I can confirm it. We pay 600€/month for 10/10 dedicated FTTH. The only alternative is HDSL 8/8, that does not work well at all. Even a little rain used to increase copper latency tenfold.
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@dbeato said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@JaredBusch said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@JaredBusch said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@Obsolesce @black3dynamite so this chocolatey could be the missing bit to speedup redeployment of a win machine as I do with linux+ansible+current distro's repo... I will check it.
Oh it's amazing.
If you have Ansible already, I'm with the "only backup once in a while."
Or ever, is there really a need to backup at all?
Well Windows patching and applications install is a pita. I will look into chocolatey. Wasting a day in reinstalling stuff in attended mode is not on my plans...
Do you have a lot of apps to install? VS is a big one, that should be able to be automated.
Would storing a copy of installers help?
VisualStudio Community is in Chocolately actually.
@JaredBusch said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@Obsolesce @black3dynamite so this chocolatey could be the missing bit to speedup redeployment of a win machine as I do with linux+ansible+current distro's repo... I will check it.
Oh it's amazing.
If you have Ansible already, I'm with the "only backup once in a while."
Or ever, is there really a need to backup at all?
Well Windows patching and applications install is a pita. I will look into chocolatey. Wasting a day in reinstalling stuff in attended mode is not on my plans...
Do you have a lot of apps to install? VS is a big one, that should be able to be automated.
Would storing a copy of installers help?
VisualStudio Community is in Chocolately actually.
Oh wow, cool. Had no idea.
So is SQL Server Express.
That is how I seutp my Win 10 VM for some dev stuff.
and many other things! IT has been awesome ever since I found Chocolatey!
So I've tested choco in a vm. So far so good. I need to be acostumized to the cmd line and terminology. As a side this has pointed out how slow and huge win packages are... Used to apt-get this is super sloooooow.
They also apply kb fixes in the process and this is c00l!I'll dig a bit in their repo... but this could resolve part of my problems.
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@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@dbeato said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@JaredBusch said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@JaredBusch said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@Obsolesce @black3dynamite so this chocolatey could be the missing bit to speedup redeployment of a win machine as I do with linux+ansible+current distro's repo... I will check it.
Oh it's amazing.
If you have Ansible already, I'm with the "only backup once in a while."
Or ever, is there really a need to backup at all?
Well Windows patching and applications install is a pita. I will look into chocolatey. Wasting a day in reinstalling stuff in attended mode is not on my plans...
Do you have a lot of apps to install? VS is a big one, that should be able to be automated.
Would storing a copy of installers help?
VisualStudio Community is in Chocolately actually.
@JaredBusch said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@Obsolesce @black3dynamite so this chocolatey could be the missing bit to speedup redeployment of a win machine as I do with linux+ansible+current distro's repo... I will check it.
Oh it's amazing.
If you have Ansible already, I'm with the "only backup once in a while."
Or ever, is there really a need to backup at all?
Well Windows patching and applications install is a pita. I will look into chocolatey. Wasting a day in reinstalling stuff in attended mode is not on my plans...
Do you have a lot of apps to install? VS is a big one, that should be able to be automated.
Would storing a copy of installers help?
VisualStudio Community is in Chocolately actually.
Oh wow, cool. Had no idea.
So is SQL Server Express.
That is how I seutp my Win 10 VM for some dev stuff.
and many other things! IT has been awesome ever since I found Chocolatey!
So I've tested choco in a vm. So far so good. I need to be acostumized to the cmd line and terminology. As a side this has pointed out how slow and huge win packages are... Used to apt-get this is super sloooooow.
They also apply kb fixes in the process and this is c00l!I'll dig a bit in their repo... but this could resolve part of my problems.
In your situation - a super reliable local backup seems like the best option. You can still push to cloud for an offsite backup in the rare case your onsite backup is damaged, but at this point, I'd question it's value for a backup of the desktop machine.
The slow internet connection is your primary enemy. Once you have everything downloaded and updated, take images only after you do updates, once or twice a month. You could then push to B2 once a month or more if desired.
If your machine has an issue, you'll be restoring 99.9% of the time from the local NAS.
You already said your work product is stored in git/etc... so no worries there. If you have other things, like pictures, etc - you can push those to Google Photos or some other option, again not worrying about them.
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@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@dbeato said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@JaredBusch said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@JaredBusch said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@Obsolesce @black3dynamite so this chocolatey could be the missing bit to speedup redeployment of a win machine as I do with linux+ansible+current distro's repo... I will check it.
Oh it's amazing.
If you have Ansible already, I'm with the "only backup once in a while."
Or ever, is there really a need to backup at all?
Well Windows patching and applications install is a pita. I will look into chocolatey. Wasting a day in reinstalling stuff in attended mode is not on my plans...
Do you have a lot of apps to install? VS is a big one, that should be able to be automated.
Would storing a copy of installers help?
VisualStudio Community is in Chocolately actually.
@JaredBusch said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@scottalanmiller said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@matteo-nunziati said in Rethinking my backup strategy:
@Obsolesce @black3dynamite so this chocolatey could be the missing bit to speedup redeployment of a win machine as I do with linux+ansible+current distro's repo... I will check it.
Oh it's amazing.
If you have Ansible already, I'm with the "only backup once in a while."
Or ever, is there really a need to backup at all?
Well Windows patching and applications install is a pita. I will look into chocolatey. Wasting a day in reinstalling stuff in attended mode is not on my plans...
Do you have a lot of apps to install? VS is a big one, that should be able to be automated.
Would storing a copy of installers help?
VisualStudio Community is in Chocolately actually.
Oh wow, cool. Had no idea.
So is SQL Server Express.
That is how I seutp my Win 10 VM for some dev stuff.
and many other things! IT has been awesome ever since I found Chocolatey!
So I've tested choco in a vm. So far so good. I need to be acostumized to the cmd line and terminology. As a side this has pointed out how slow and huge win packages are... Used to apt-get this is super sloooooow.
They also apply kb fixes in the process and this is c00l!I'll dig a bit in their repo... but this could resolve part of my problems.
It's a game changer for Windows shops. Improves the Windows ecosystem so much.
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Everyone said good stuff, I used T440 especially the T440p. They are okay and much better than T460. The hardware and assembly are rigid, however, the software part, especially Lenovo apps are rubbish and you want to avoid.
My simple advice, put everything in 1 parent folder, like D:\YOUR NAME and spawn many many subs, and never put anything outside of the folder, end of the day, hit it with robocopy sync to fast local drive, I love Samsung micro sd cards with 60 MB/s they are cheap and durable.
50 GiB worth of backup will take you first run 15 mins, future runs will take seconds. You can automate it via script. You can buy another one and have 2 backups. You can encrypt them, so if they are lost it is okay. I can't tell you how much I trust robocopy and how much it is smart and avoids all Windows file explorer limitation.
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@Emad-R I agree with Emad here, Robocopy is hard to beat for simplicity and reliability.
