Unitrends Free is still useless
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Veeam just runs on Windows, period. There's no "must be on X hypervisor" and no "must have Y OS to install." There's just one requirement.
If Unitrends allowed you to install directly, it would just be "Requires CentOS".
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@scottalanmiller said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
The actual Unitrends server can only be installed on Hyper-V. But the installer for it only runs on Windows. So if you don't have both Windows and Hyper-V you can't use it. It's insane. Once on Hyper-V, it only runs on CentOS! So three disparate systems all are required to install their one application.
Why in the hell would any design a system like that. . .
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@scottalanmiller said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
@obsolesce said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
Huh? Aren't you saying Unitrends Server cannot be installed on a Hyper-V Server, it must be Windows? Just like your Veeam Backup server cannot be installed on a Hyper-V Server, it needs to be Windows?
No, it's different, but I can see why it seems that way.
It's two fold...
The actual Unitrends server can only be installed on Hyper-V. But the installer for it only runs on Windows. So if you don't have both Windows and Hyper-V you can't use it. It's insane. Once on Hyper-V, it only runs on CentOS! So three disparate systems all are required to install their one application.
Oh I see, didn't understand what he meant. Yeah, that's different then.
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@jaredbusch said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
So the official instructions (for the trial not free) say to extract the VHD from the ISO.. But there is an exe in the ISO and I cannot open it with 7zip.
So where the fuck am I supposed to get the VHD from?
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@jaredbusch said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
y to extrac
The it's probably a self-extracting .exe. Extract the the EXE from the .ISO... then run the EXE, which will probably extract the VHD. Just a guess.
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@obsolesce said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
@jaredbusch said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
y to extrac
The it's probably a self-extracting .exe. Extract the the EXE from the .ISO... then run the EXE, which will probably extract the VHD. Just a guess.
Not arguing, just stupid.
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@jaredbusch said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
@obsolesce said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
@jaredbusch said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
y to extrac
The it's probably a self-extracting .exe. Extract the the EXE from the .ISO... then run the EXE, which will probably extract the VHD. Just a guess.
Not arguing, just stupid.
Yeah pretty pointless.
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@obsolesce said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
@jaredbusch said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
@obsolesce said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
@jaredbusch said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
y to extrac
The it's probably a self-extracting .exe. Extract the the EXE from the .ISO... then run the EXE, which will probably extract the VHD. Just a guess.
Not arguing, just stupid.
Yeah pretty pointless.
Totally pointless apparently..
This is the trial version
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This is what Free does.
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This entire post is just making me never want to use this product ever.
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@dustinb3403 said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
This entire post is just making me never want to use this product ever.
I gave up trying their products all together.
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Could it be like this because the .EXE automatically extracts AND configures the VM? If so, then it would make sense to require Hyper-V Role be installed.
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@obsolesce said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
Could it be like this because the .EXE automatically extracts AND configures the VM? If so, then it would make sense to require Hyper-V Role be installed.
If I remember correctly when you start the installation, there’s a temporary folder with multiple powershell scripts that does most of configuration.
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@obsolesce said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
Could it be like this because the .EXE automatically extracts AND configures the VM? If so, then it would make sense to require Hyper-V Role be installed.
That's definitely not a good reason for the role to be needed.
Nothing like requiring a non-production approach! It speaks volumes as to how they see themselves.
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@scottalanmiller said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
@obsolesce said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
Could it be like this because the .EXE automatically extracts AND configures the VM? If so, then it would make sense to require Hyper-V Role be installed.
That's definitely not a good reason for the role to be needed.
Nothing like requiring a non-production approach! It speaks volumes as to how they see themselves.
It's a reason to, but I never suggested it was a good one!
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Btw, is there anything agentless and free for Hyper-V or vSphere that can be used for scheduled VM backup? I had hopes for the free Unitrends but now they're shattered after this post.
Edit: Looks like the Unitrends' free offering for VMware is better but it's a topic for a different thread I guess:)
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@taurex said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
Btw, is there anything agentless and free for Hyper-V or vSphere that can be used for scheduled VM backup? I had hopes for the free Unitrends but now they're shattered after this post.
Edit: Looks like the Unitrends' free offering for VMware is better but it's a topic for a different thread I guess:)
Altaro can and the free version allows you to backup 2 VMs.
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@taurex said in Unitrends Free is still useless:
Btw, is there anything agentless and free for Hyper-V or vSphere that can be used for scheduled VM backup? I had hopes for the free Unitrends but now they're shattered after this post.
Edit: Looks like the Unitrends' free offering for VMware is better but it's a topic for a different thread I guess:)
Which part do you want free? ESXi/vSphere slash Hyper-V or Veeam?
VBR does offer a free edition, but does not include scheduling capabilities. You can get around that with PS scrips invoking the jobs and Task Scheduler. However, if it breaks, then you get "Best Effort" support.
VMware ESXi/vSphere - No, because the API's will not be enabled for something like Veeam to interact with it..
Hyper-V - If you download the free Microsoft Hyper-V 2016 hypervisor (not a full blown 2016 server and add the Hyper-V role), then it is too free, but can be a pain to manage sometimes, but does allow for you to have VBR interact with it for free. Only downside for it with VBR is that you don't get all of the features that you could get with ESXi/vSphere.
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Quite honestly I would just setup hyperv templates with UrBackup at this point..
Agentless is great if you have a ton of systems but the needs for UrBackup server and agent are trivial to disregard it.
