Survey of Fake Jobs SAMIT Video

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    I'm Scott Alan Miller and today on SAMIT I'm gonna talk about one of those dirty secrets of the IT industry. It's actually kind of not so much a dirty secret of IT as much as it's a dirty secret of everyone who's hiring IT. That secret is that most job listings, most job postings that you see out there are fake. That's right, and I estimate it's somewhere around 85%, but of course there's no way to really know; especially because any given job's ability to be fake is somewhat subjective. But let's talk about why this is the case.

    So at a high level one of the things you have to realize is that the entire job market online where we have job postings and
    job candidates that we need to match up, is a lot like an online dating service and like an online dating service both sides benefit from having really large numbers. People who are on the hiring side want to see loads and loads of candidates and makes them feel good about the service that they're using
    that they're getting a large number of
    resumes or calls or submissions on the
    other side candidates want to see a
    large number of job listings they feel
    like they're getting great value because
    they have lots of different jobs to
    which they can apply and that feels like
    they have their best chances because
    there's so many opportunities so both
    sides want to see big numbers even if
    they only want to hire one person or get
    one job that's an emotional reaction it
    doesn't actually make sense both sides
    simply want the right connection the
    company wants to hire one good person or
    a few and that's all they care about
    whether there's a thousand people
    waiting behind them or two doesn't
    matter to them not in the end of the day
    but it's just not important
    the same for job candidates you want one
    job not a thousand it just has to be the
    right job and it has to hire you at the
    rate that you're happy with but as long
    as you get that one no matter how many
    others there are isn't beneficial to you
    and the more there are it's actually
    harder to wade through so it's actually
    a negative because it makes the process
    of locating and
    binding the the right resources that
    much harder so both sides have a really
    strong incentive to provide something to
    the other side that's not exactly honest
    jobs have a lot of reasons to want to
    attract people so they want to make jobs
    look really attractive or interesting
    and candidates want to lie about their
    skills and make themselves sound really
    useful and interesting everybody has
    something to play enlisting themselves
    online exactly like a dating site so in
    we know that sites like tinder for
    example are famous for being more than
    99 percent fake it's either completely
    fake which is the category where the
    services themselves create fake profiles
    to make the service look like it's busy
    or other companies use the service with
    fake profiles such as bots because they
    want to collect information or do market
    research or just whatever whatever logic
    they have for doing that if you're
    dealing with on the people side if
    there's a real person but giving fake
    information because they want to
    encourage a connection where one doesn't
    make sense we call that catfishing in AI
    T or in jobs in general that IT is
    specifically bad about this because of
    the way the online hiring tends to
    happen with the exact same thing the
    services whether they're recruiting
    firms or just websites that host job
    listings have a massive incentive to
    fill their sites with fake jobs because
    as long as fake jobs are on there or any
    jobs then candidates are going to fill
    in profiles and start submitting which
    allows people to collect information you
    don't need a single real job for those
    sites to make money a lot of it so you
    have fake profiles and you have systems
    that are creating BOTS profiles or
    completely fake profiles but they're not
    from the the website itself to collect
    information but then you have lots and
    lots of companies out there that falsely
    represent themselves because they're
    catfishing in a professional sense they
    want to collect information about
    possible candidates or they want to get
    candidates on the line and hopefully
    talk them into being hired for something
    that isn't what they signed up for this
    is pretty common
    now that's just what's going on from the
    company and the the website side there
    are lots of recruiting firms that are a
    little bit different than either and
    they have a huge incentive incentive to
    do the same thing as the website but
    they often use job websites to
    coordinate this which expands the
    process even more they want to have lots
    and lots of candidates on the line so
    that when they go to a company to
    propose that they can fill a job that'll
    be easier for them to fill and the more
    candidates they have the more desperate
    those candidates will tend to feel which
    makes them more likely to accept a lower
    pay which makes the recruiter more
    capable to fill a job at a given company
    because if they come in cheaper than
    some other recruiter they are more
    likely to fill the position even if
    their candidates are the same or lesser
    so in the real world there's a massive
    market force from every angle to fill
    job sites with fake information in every
    direction and it's real if you spend a
    lot of time job hunting you will find
    pretty quickly that job listings are
    fake they may look real they may sound
    real they may be posted to many places
    they may be posted directly by the
    company that you think is doing the
    hiring but they're almost always fake
    and 85% is pretty conservative it's
    easily closer to 90 to 99 percent it's
    just really hard to know for sure
    because when you apply for a job and
    don't get a response is that because it
    was already filled is it old data was it
    never meant to be filled did they mean
    to fill it but change their mind there's
    a lot of different factors that could be
    leading to that and some of them are
    overtly fake and some are just
    suggestively fake and some kind of
    overlap with being fake while not
    actually being technically fake they
    just result in utility of the same as
    being fake so it's important to
    understand when you're looking at job
    listings because a lot of IT people use
    job listings as a guide for things and
    you'll hear people say this all the time
    oh you want to know what people are
    hiring for in your market go look at a
    job posting and see what people are
    asking for this is actually pretty bad
    advice because it's based around the
    fact that people think the job listings
    must be real so that leads them to then
    look for skills to acquire skills that
    fake jobs are looking for
    but those fake jobs are probably looking
    for skills that people have put falsely
    on their resumes for the same reason in
    the other direction so feeding off of
    each other and it doesn't in any way
    reflect what people are actually looking
    to hire at least in most cases and then
    some places are simply looking to do
    market research for example you're an
    employer and you want to know how much
    it might cost you to hire someone so
    that you can then go to management and
    talk about what it will cost to hire
    someone to do that one of the easiest
    and cheapest ways is to go onto a job
    site post a fake job that looks
    something like something you might hire
    and see what kind of price ranges and
    skill sets a number of candidates come
    back of course a lot of those candidates
    are fake the same way the job postings
    are but it still gives you a number to
    take the management and say look we
    could hire someone for X so we would
    like to then put a real job posting and
    see about hiring them that's so common
    that it's almost a stock way to do it
    because of this we have a lot of
    misinformation in the field whether it's
    misinformation about how hard it is to
    get a job because this makes people feel
    like they can submit to 100 jobs and
    only one answers them they feel like
    failures and they're more likely to
    accept less money or jump on an
    available position and it makes
    companies have a very hard time figuring
    out which candidates are real so it's
    the entire system becomes very very
    misleading because of this so as an IT
    pro as an IT practitioner what you need
    to understand and you need to
    internalize this because it's incredibly
    important is that when you see a job
    listing it doesn't matter whether you
    see one of them or a hundred of them it
    doesn't give you solid information about
    what the market is like about what that
    company is actually looking for or if
    that job is even real and this creates
    problems like people seeing requirements
    and believing falsely that requirements
    are very very strict but in reality
    companies put in really weird
    requirements into these fake job
    postings so that they always have an
    excuse to turn down anyone who comes up
    it doesn't matter whether it's the
    company doing it or a recruiter or
    whatever and this is where you see
    conflicting requirements all the time
    now of course there are some
    legitimately clueless people who put
    accidental conflicting requirements into
    job listings just because they don't
    know how to hire and they're incompetent
    it does happen but much more likely and
    much more logical is that conflicting
    requirements exist or illogical
    exist so that no candidate will
    reasonably fit the requirements list and
    by doing this in most countries there
    are legal stipulations around who you
    can advertise a job to and why you can
    turn them down and if those people feel
    that they're being turned down for
    illegal reasons such as race sex age and
    so forth they may sue you because they
    feel that they can win and in many cases
    they could but if you have job
    requirements that they didn't meet such
    as simply demanding an illogical level
    of formal education or a mix of
    certificate certifications that you
    would be unlikely to have or a single
    piece of technical expertise that would
    take you out of the price range of some
    other job that you're looking for they
    can turn you down based on those factors
    and make it effectively impossible for
    you to take them to court even though
    they're actually discriminating and
    would have hired someone have they
    actually been looking without meeting
    those requirements and it makes IT pros
    feel that requirements exist that simply
    don't so that's kind of the basics and
    we're gonna build a lot on that but it's
    important to understand at a fundamental
    level that job postings are fake and
    there's very logical reasons why it's
    like that it's unfortunate but you must
    accept it or you're going to find job
    hunting and IT to be incredibly
    stressful misleading and difficult when
    okay it's going to be all those things
    but it doesn't have to be nearly as bad
    as it seems once we realize what's going
    on and we change our behavior to work
    around the way that that is happening
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  • How is the subtitles/cc done for YT videos? It is very accurate here.
    Anyway to get it to transcribe these to a document whose text you could put underneath your videos?

  • @momurda said in Survey of Fake Jobs SAMIT Video:

    How is the subtitles/cc done for YT videos? It is very accurate here.

    YouTube does it, it is completely automatic.

  • @momurda said in Survey of Fake Jobs SAMIT Video:

    Anyway to get it to transcribe these to a document whose text you could put underneath your videos?

    Gotta find an easy way to pretty it up. But I know how to get it now, so I can work on that.