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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      When possible, you should have a copy of the data so you can just restore it to a test location for something like the following.

      Windows 10 PC (Desktop/laptop hardware) put the data there and access it using the same client machine via the same switch as the server uses, see if there is a difference.

      Then test the same setup with Server 2016 on that hardware.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by

        I believe you said that you put the data directly on the Hyper-V host and shared it? if so, what was the outcome?

        I also recall that you shared it from the VM, and accessed it on the Hyper-V host via that share, and it was slow - is that still the case?

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        • CCWTechC
          CCWTech
          last edited by

          Output from Physical Server:

          ConnectionCountPerRssNetworkInterface : 4
          DirectoryCacheEntriesMax : 16
          DirectoryCacheEntrySizeMax : 65536
          DirectoryCacheLifetime : 10
          DormantFileLimit : 1023
          EnableBandwidthThrottling : True
          EnableByteRangeLockingOnReadOnlyFiles : True
          EnableInsecureGuestLogons : True
          EnableLargeMtu : True
          EnableLoadBalanceScaleOut : True
          EnableMultiChannel : True
          EnableSecuritySignature : True
          ExtendedSessionTimeout : 1000
          FileInfoCacheEntriesMax : 64
          FileInfoCacheLifetime : 10
          FileNotFoundCacheEntriesMax : 128
          FileNotFoundCacheLifetime : 5
          KeepConn : 600
          MaxCmds : 50
          MaximumConnectionCountPerServer : 32
          OplocksDisabled : False
          RequireSecuritySignature : False
          SessionTimeout : 60
          UseOpportunisticLocking : True
          WindowSizeThreshold : 1

          Output from Applications server:

          ConnectionCountPerRssNetworkInterface : 4
          DirectoryCacheEntriesMax : 16
          DirectoryCacheEntrySizeMax : 65536
          DirectoryCacheLifetime : 10
          DormantFileLimit : 1023
          EnableBandwidthThrottling : True
          EnableByteRangeLockingOnReadOnlyFiles : True
          EnableInsecureGuestLogons : True
          EnableLargeMtu : True
          EnableLoadBalanceScaleOut : True
          EnableMultiChannel : True
          EnableSecuritySignature : True
          ExtendedSessionTimeout : 1000
          FileInfoCacheEntriesMax : 64
          FileInfoCacheLifetime : 10
          FileNotFoundCacheEntriesMax : 128
          FileNotFoundCacheLifetime : 5
          KeepConn : 600
          MaxCmds : 50
          MaximumConnectionCountPerServer : 32
          OplocksDisabled : False
          RequireSecuritySignature : False
          SessionTimeout : 60
          UseOpportunisticLocking : True
          WindowSizeThreshold : 1

          ServerName ShareName UserName Credential Dialect NumOpens

          HOMETOWN-APPS Data HTVET\hvh2 HTVET\HVH2 3.1.1 1
          HOMETOWN-APPS Data HTVET\HVH3 HTVET\HVH3 3.1.1 1
          HOMETOWN-APPS Data HTVET\HVH8 HTVET\HVH8 3.1.1 1

          Output from one of the workstations:
          ConnectionCountPerRssNetworkInterface : 4
          DirectoryCacheEntriesMax : 16
          DirectoryCacheEntrySizeMax : 65536
          DirectoryCacheLifetime : 10
          DormantFileLimit : 1023
          EnableBandwidthThrottling : True
          EnableByteRangeLockingOnReadOnlyFiles : True
          EnableInsecureGuestLogons : True
          EnableLargeMtu : True
          EnableLoadBalanceScaleOut : True
          EnableMultiChannel : True
          EnableSecuritySignature : True
          ExtendedSessionTimeout : 1000
          FileInfoCacheEntriesMax : 64
          FileInfoCacheLifetime : 10
          FileNotFoundCacheEntriesMax : 128
          FileNotFoundCacheLifetime : 5
          KeepConn : 600
          MaxCmds : 50
          MaximumConnectionCountPerServer : 32
          OplocksDisabled : False
          RequireSecuritySignature : False
          SessionTimeout : 60
          UseOpportunisticLocking : True
          WindowSizeThreshold : 8

          ServerName ShareName UserName Credential Dialect NumOpens

          HOMETOWN-APPS Data HTVET\hvh HTVET.LOCAL\hvh 3.1.1 1

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          • CCWTechC
            CCWTech
            last edited by

            It is still slow when running the app on the physical server from the hyper-v (apps) server.

            I have put the application on a directory on the physical server and shared that out for testing. More to come...

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
              last edited by

              I gave the wrong command.

              Get-SmbServerConfiguration
              This one will tell you what SMB versions you have enabled for serving up shares. Only needed on the server side.

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              • CCWTechC
                CCWTech @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @dashrender said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                I gave the wrong command.

                Get-SmbServerConfiguration
                This one will tell you what SMB versions you have enabled for serving up shares. Only needed on the server side.

                Physical or virtual or both?

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                • CCWTechC
                  CCWTech
                  last edited by

                  @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                  Get-SmbServerConfiguration

                  This is from the hyperv/apps server:

                  AnnounceComment :
                  AnnounceServer : False
                  AsynchronousCredits : 512
                  AuditSmb1Access : False
                  AutoDisconnectTimeout : 15
                  AutoShareServer : True
                  AutoShareWorkstation : True
                  CachedOpenLimit : 0
                  DurableHandleV2TimeoutInSeconds : 180
                  EnableAuthenticateUserSharing : False
                  EnableDownlevelTimewarp : False
                  EnableForcedLogoff : True
                  EnableLeasing : True
                  EnableMultiChannel : True
                  EnableOplocks : False
                  EnableSecuritySignature : False
                  EnableSMB1Protocol : True
                  EnableSMB2Protocol : True
                  EnableStrictNameChecking : True
                  EncryptData : False
                  IrpStackSize : 15
                  KeepAliveTime : 2
                  MaxChannelPerSession : 32
                  MaxMpxCount : 50
                  MaxSessionPerConnection : 16384
                  MaxThreadsPerQueue : 20
                  MaxWorkItems : 1
                  NullSessionPipes : HydraLsPipe,TermServLicensing
                  NullSessionShares :
                  OplockBreakWait : 35
                  PendingClientTimeoutInSeconds : 120
                  RejectUnencryptedAccess : True
                  RequireSecuritySignature : False
                  ServerHidden : True
                  Smb2CreditsMax : 8192
                  Smb2CreditsMin : 512
                  SmbServerNameHardeningLevel : 0
                  TreatHostAsStableStorage : False
                  ValidateAliasNotCircular : True
                  ValidateShareScope : True
                  ValidateShareScopeNotAliased : True
                  ValidateTargetName : True

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @CCWTech
                    last edited by

                    @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                    @dashrender said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                    I gave the wrong command.

                    Get-SmbServerConfiguration
                    This one will tell you what SMB versions you have enabled for serving up shares. Only needed on the server side.

                    Physical or virtual or both?

                    both, since you're now testing both.

                    Also, you can wrap each block of text with 3 tick marks ` before and after

                    to see it like this
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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      You're Hyper-V has SMB1 enabled

                      nudzdn9.png

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                        You're Hyper-V has SMB1 enabled

                        nudzdn9.png

                        But Hyper-V shouldn't be involved in SMB communications.

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                        • CCWTechC
                          CCWTech
                          last edited by

                          Physical Server

                          
AnnounceComment                 : 
AnnounceServer                  : False
AsynchronousCredits             : 512
AuditSmb1Access                 : False
AutoDisconnectTimeout           : 15
AutoShareServer                 : True
AutoShareWorkstation            : True
CachedOpenLimit                 : 10
DurableHandleV2TimeoutInSeconds : 180
EnableAuthenticateUserSharing   : False
EnableDownlevelTimewarp         : False
EnableForcedLogoff              : True
EnableLeasing                   : True
EnableMultiChannel              : True
EnableOplocks                   : True
EnableSecuritySignature         : False
EnableSMB1Protocol              : True
EnableSMB2Protocol              : True
EnableStrictNameChecking        : True
EncryptData                     : False
IrpStackSize                    : 15
KeepAliveTime                   : 2
MaxChannelPerSession            : 32
MaxMpxCount                     : 50
MaxSessionPerConnection         : 16384
MaxThreadsPerQueue              : 20
MaxWorkItems                    : 1
NullSessionPipes                : 
NullSessionShares               : 
OplockBreakWait                 : 35
PendingClientTimeoutInSeconds   : 120
RejectUnencryptedAccess         : True
RequireSecuritySignature        : False
ServerHidden                    : True
Smb2CreditsMax                  : 8192
Smb2CreditsMin                  : 512
SmbServerNameHardeningLevel     : 0
TreatHostAsStableStorage        : False
ValidateAliasNotCircular        : True
ValidateShareScope              : True
ValidateShareScopeNotAliased    : True
ValidateTargetName              : True
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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                            @dashrender said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                            You're Hyper-V has SMB1 enabled

                            nudzdn9.png

                            But Hyper-V shouldn't be involved in SMB communications.

                            For the test it is.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @dashrender said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                              @dashrender said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                              You're Hyper-V has SMB1 enabled

                              nudzdn9.png

                              But Hyper-V shouldn't be involved in SMB communications.

                              For the test it is.

                              What is the test testing?

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                @dashrender said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                @dashrender said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                You're Hyper-V has SMB1 enabled

                                nudzdn9.png

                                But Hyper-V shouldn't be involved in SMB communications.

                                For the test it is.

                                What is the test testing?

                                If an OS installed directly on the hardware doesn’t have the slowness issue when sharing over The network vs the vm on its vSwitch that does have the issue.

                                What I don’t know is.... if Hyper-V is installed, is the hosts traffic in any way different than if it didn’t have the hyper-v role added?

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