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    • Mike Davis
      Mike Davis last edited by

      I had a client that was sold four whitebox computers from an "IT guy" that "builds computers on the side". It turns out he installed windows 7 on the machines "with an OEM license from work." Needless to say, my client is buying licenses. It looks like we can only find Windows 10 licenses at this point. It doesn't look like the retail licenses have any downgrade rights. Is there a way to get a legit Windows 7 Product Key so I can avoid upgrading all the machines to Windows 10. Is there an option I'm missing here?

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      • gjacobse
        gjacobse last edited by

        Why down grade to Win7 which is getting really close to EOL? What would be the problem with keeping Win10?

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          Alex Sage @Mike Davis last edited by Alex Sage

          @mike-davis Volume Licenses

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          • DustinB3403
            DustinB3403 @gjacobse last edited by

            @gjacobse said in Windows 7 licenses:

            Why down grade to Win7 which is getting really close to EOL? What would be the problem with keeping Win10?

            ^ this?

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            • Mike Davis
              Mike Davis @gjacobse last edited by

              @gjacobse The machines are already in production and probably only have a couple more years life in them anyways. Since they are whiteboxes I don't know how much fun I'm going to have finding drivers for the video card, etc.

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              • scottalanmiller
                scottalanmiller last edited by

                I think VL might be your only path.

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                  Alex Sage @Mike Davis last edited by

                  @mike-davis Then why not just leave it as is for now?

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                  • JaredBusch
                    JaredBusch @Alex Sage last edited by

                    @aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:

                    @mike-davis Then why not just leave it as is for now?

                    Because it is not legal.

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                    • Mike Davis
                      Mike Davis @Alex Sage last edited by

                      @aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:

                      @mike-davis Microsoft Open Programs

                      For only 4 machines? Also doesn't the open program pretty much mean you're getting audited every 2 years?

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                      • scottalanmiller
                        scottalanmiller last edited by

                        If the machines only have so much life left in them, new Windows licenses will cost a fortune. It is what it is, almost certainly this should prompt them to buy new machines at this point.

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                        • coliver
                          coliver @Alex Sage last edited by

                          @aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:

                          @mike-davis Then why not just leave it as is for now?

                          They aren't licensed properly.

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                          • scottalanmiller
                            scottalanmiller @coliver last edited by

                            @coliver said in Windows 7 licenses:

                            @aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:

                            @mike-davis Then why not just leave it as is for now?

                            They aren't licensed properly.

                            At all.

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                            • JaredBusch
                              JaredBusch last edited by

                              @Mike-Davis just buy some VL licenses and you are done. you have no need to reinstall. that is not how licensing works. you just need to have them purchased.

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                              • scottalanmiller
                                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch last edited by scottalanmiller

                                @jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                @Mike-Davis just buy some VL licenses and you are done. you have no need to reinstall. that is not how licensing works. you just need to have them purchased.

                                He has to buy VL and OEMs. VL are upgrade only and since there was no original license on these boxes, he has to have both. Making it pretty expensive.

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                                • scottalanmiller
                                  scottalanmiller last edited by

                                  I would guess that between the OEM and the VL, it's going to easily approach $300 per machine to license. Doesn't take long before new machines would be comparable.

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                                    Alex Sage @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                    If the machines only have so much life left in them, new Windows licenses will cost a fortune. It is what it is, almost certainly this should prompt them to buy new machines at this point.

                                    Exactly.

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                                    • scottalanmiller
                                      scottalanmiller @Mike Davis last edited by

                                      @mike-davis said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                      @aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                      @mike-davis Microsoft Open Programs

                                      For only 4 machines? Also doesn't the open program pretty much mean you're getting audited every 2 years?

                                      The minimum purchase point is five "items", so sure. And while people do get audited, I've never known a shop first hand that was. It's mostly only because of the sheer size of people in Spiceworks that we get the feeling that audits are common.

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                                      • JaredBusch
                                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                        @jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                        @Mike-Davis just buy some VL licenses and you are done. you have no need to reinstall. that is not how licensing works. you just need to have them purchased.

                                        He has to buy VL and OEMs. VL are upgrade only and since there was no original license on these boxes, he has to have both. Making it pretty expensive.

                                        Missed that bit about whitebox.

                                        Yup, you are screwed @Mike-Davis. Just buy new machines.

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                                        • coliver
                                          coliver @JaredBusch last edited by

                                          @jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                          @jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                          @Mike-Davis just buy some VL licenses and you are done. you have no need to reinstall. that is not how licensing works. you just need to have them purchased.

                                          He has to buy VL and OEMs. VL are upgrade only and since there was no original license on these boxes, he has to have both. Making it pretty expensive.

                                          Missed that bit about whitebox.

                                          Yup, you are screwed @Mike-Davis. Just buy new machines.

                                          This seems like the best choice.

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                                          • JaredBusch
                                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                            @mike-davis said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                            @aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                            @mike-davis Microsoft Open Programs

                                            For only 4 machines? Also doesn't the open program pretty much mean you're getting audited every 2 years?

                                            The minimum purchase point is five "items", so sure. And while people do get audited, I've never known a shop first hand that was. It's mostly only because of the sheer size of people in Spiceworks that we get the feeling that audits are common.

                                            I have had 4 clients audited. One with only 8 computers.

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