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    • coliverC
      coliver @Alex Sage
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      @aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:

      @mike-davis Then why not just leave it as is for now?

      They aren't licensed properly.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @coliver
        last edited by

        @coliver said in Windows 7 licenses:

        @aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:

        @mike-davis Then why not just leave it as is for now?

        They aren't licensed properly.

        At all.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @Mike-Davis just buy some VL licenses and you are done. you have no need to reinstall. that is not how licensing works. you just need to have them purchased.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
            last edited by scottalanmiller

            @jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:

            @Mike-Davis just buy some VL licenses and you are done. you have no need to reinstall. that is not how licensing works. you just need to have them purchased.

            He has to buy VL and OEMs. VL are upgrade only and since there was no original license on these boxes, he has to have both. Making it pretty expensive.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              I would guess that between the OEM and the VL, it's going to easily approach $300 per machine to license. Doesn't take long before new machines would be comparable.

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                Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:

                If the machines only have so much life left in them, new Windows licenses will cost a fortune. It is what it is, almost certainly this should prompt them to buy new machines at this point.

                Exactly.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                  @mike-davis said in Windows 7 licenses:

                  @aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:

                  @mike-davis Microsoft Open Programs

                  For only 4 machines? Also doesn't the open program pretty much mean you're getting audited every 2 years?

                  The minimum purchase point is five "items", so sure. And while people do get audited, I've never known a shop first hand that was. It's mostly only because of the sheer size of people in Spiceworks that we get the feeling that audits are common.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:

                    @jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:

                    @Mike-Davis just buy some VL licenses and you are done. you have no need to reinstall. that is not how licensing works. you just need to have them purchased.

                    He has to buy VL and OEMs. VL are upgrade only and since there was no original license on these boxes, he has to have both. Making it pretty expensive.

                    Missed that bit about whitebox.

                    Yup, you are screwed @Mike-Davis. Just buy new machines.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:

                      @jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:

                      @Mike-Davis just buy some VL licenses and you are done. you have no need to reinstall. that is not how licensing works. you just need to have them purchased.

                      He has to buy VL and OEMs. VL are upgrade only and since there was no original license on these boxes, he has to have both. Making it pretty expensive.

                      Missed that bit about whitebox.

                      Yup, you are screwed @Mike-Davis. Just buy new machines.

                      This seems like the best choice.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:

                        @mike-davis said in Windows 7 licenses:

                        @aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:

                        @mike-davis Microsoft Open Programs

                        For only 4 machines? Also doesn't the open program pretty much mean you're getting audited every 2 years?

                        The minimum purchase point is five "items", so sure. And while people do get audited, I've never known a shop first hand that was. It's mostly only because of the sheer size of people in Spiceworks that we get the feeling that audits are common.

                        I have had 4 clients audited. One with only 8 computers.

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                        • EddieJenningsE
                          EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller

                          VL are upgrade only

                          I remember learning this years ago. I was most displeased.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:

                            @mike-davis said in Windows 7 licenses:

                            @aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:

                            @mike-davis Microsoft Open Programs

                            For only 4 machines? Also doesn't the open program pretty much mean you're getting audited every 2 years?

                            The minimum purchase point is five "items", so sure. And while people do get audited, I've never known a shop first hand that was. It's mostly only because of the sheer size of people in Spiceworks that we get the feeling that audits are common.

                            I have had 4 clients audited. One with only 8 computers.

                            At least with 4-8 computers, audits are fast and easy.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by JaredBusch

                              @scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:

                              @jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:

                              @mike-davis said in Windows 7 licenses:

                              @aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:

                              @mike-davis Microsoft Open Programs

                              For only 4 machines? Also doesn't the open program pretty much mean you're getting audited every 2 years?

                              The minimum purchase point is five "items", so sure. And while people do get audited, I've never known a shop first hand that was. It's mostly only because of the sheer size of people in Spiceworks that we get the feeling that audits are common.

                              I have had 4 clients audited. One with only 8 computers.

                              At least with 4-8 computers, audits are fast and easy.

                              8 computers and 2 Hyper-V servers. and anything but fast an easy because the guy responding to the SAM paperwork refused to believe that I could use replication with Hyper-V Server 2012 R2 without full double licensing of everything, etc.

                              Took 2 months of back and forth and sending links to MS documentation.

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                                Alex Sage @JaredBusch
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                                @jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                @jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                @mike-davis said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                @aaronstuder said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                @mike-davis Microsoft Open Programs

                                For only 4 machines? Also doesn't the open program pretty much mean you're getting audited every 2 years?

                                The minimum purchase point is five "items", so sure. And while people do get audited, I've never known a shop first hand that was. It's mostly only because of the sheer size of people in Spiceworks that we get the feeling that audits are common.

                                I have had 4 clients audited. One with only 8 computers.

                                At least with 4-8 computers, audits are fast and easy.

                                8 computers and 2 Hyper-V servers. and anything but fast an easy because the guy responding to the SAM paperwork refused to believe that I could use replication with Hyper-V Server 2012 R2 without full double licensing of everything, etc.

                                Took 2 months of back and forth and sending links to MS documentation.

                                Same issue here.

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                                • Mike DavisM
                                  Mike Davis
                                  last edited by

                                  Out of a handful of larger clients, I have one that has been getting audited pretty much every 2 years. This last round was great. The client has been buying all their licensing through CDW, so my CDW rep said he would take care of it.

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                                  • Mike DavisM
                                    Mike Davis @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @jaredbusch said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                    Took 2 months of back and forth and sending links to MS documentation.

                                    been there. It was like the level 1 guy would only read what you put in the boxes in the Excel spreadsheet.

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                                    • gjacobseG
                                      gjacobse @Mike Davis
                                      last edited by

                                      @mike-davis said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                      Out of a handful of larger clients, I have one that has been getting audited pretty much every 2 years.

                                      What they heck? In all my years - I'm not sure MS has ever looked at my sites...

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                                      • Mike DavisM
                                        Mike Davis @gjacobse
                                        last edited by

                                        @gjacobse said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                        What they heck? In all my years - I'm not sure MS has ever looked at my sites...

                                        I haven't had them audit any of my non for profit clients...

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                                        • gjacobseG
                                          gjacobse @Mike Davis
                                          last edited by

                                          @mike-davis said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                          @gjacobse said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                          What they heck? In all my years - I'm not sure MS has ever looked at my sites...

                                          I haven't had them audit any of my non for profit clients...

                                          Non-Profits make up 10 of my last 13 years

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                                          • Mike DavisM
                                            Mike Davis @gjacobse
                                            last edited by

                                            @gjacobse said in Windows 7 licenses:

                                            Non-Profits make up 10 of my last 13 years

                                            That's what I was thinking.

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