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We asked for a site to have a leased line. Was told there was no free capacity on the Exchange/Cab, and BT wanted just over £100K to install!!!!
We said no we an't paying for the Upgrade to give everyone Fibre !!!! you do it and we will sign up under normal conditions
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@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
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@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
They should of bit the bullet and dug up the uk streets years ago and just laid the fibre, instead BT have only put fibre to the cabinet at the end of the street....people want full fibre to the home now...not half copper and fibre....
The subsidies provided obviously weren't enough.
I have fibre to my house and it's great. . . and stupidly cheap as well.
Don't most US based homes have fibre direct to the premises? or do you have a mix of vdsl/adsl/fibre depending on state?
ha. . . maybe 1% of us homes have fibre to the house. I'm in that lucky percentage.
wow, didn't honestly know how it is out there!
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@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
They should of bit the bullet and dug up the uk streets years ago and just laid the fibre, instead BT have only put fibre to the cabinet at the end of the street....people want full fibre to the home now...not half copper and fibre....
The subsidies provided obviously weren't enough.
I have fibre to my house and it's great. . . and stupidly cheap as well.
Don't most US based homes have fibre direct to the premises? or do you have a mix of vdsl/adsl/fibre depending on state?
ha. . . maybe 1% of us homes have fibre to the house. I'm in that lucky percentage.
wow, didn't honestly know how it is out there!
So most people on adsl??adsl or copper yeah.
And with our joke of a government it is likely to stay this way.
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@hobbit666 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
We asked for a site to have a leased line. Was told there was no free capacity on the Exchange/Cab, and BT wanted just over £100K to install!!!!
We said no we an't paying for the Upgrade to give everyone Fibre !!!! you do it and we will sign up under normal conditions
Yeah it's funny how much BT used to charge for leased lines a few years ago for businesses, they have dropped down a lot thankfully now.
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@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
They should of bit the bullet and dug up the uk streets years ago and just laid the fibre, instead BT have only put fibre to the cabinet at the end of the street....people want full fibre to the home now...not half copper and fibre....
The subsidies provided obviously weren't enough.
I have fibre to my house and it's great. . . and stupidly cheap as well.
Don't most US based homes have fibre direct to the premises? or do you have a mix of vdsl/adsl/fibre depending on state?
ha. . . maybe 1% of us homes have fibre to the house. I'm in that lucky percentage.
wow, didn't honestly know how it is out there!
So most people on adsl??adsl or copper yeah.
And with our joke of a government it is likely to stay this way.
Crazy, the top grossing country in the world and your government is not even investing in it's infrastructure...you could probably pay for it tenfold if you didn't spend as much on your military lol..
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@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
They should of bit the bullet and dug up the uk streets years ago and just laid the fibre, instead BT have only put fibre to the cabinet at the end of the street....people want full fibre to the home now...not half copper and fibre....
The subsidies provided obviously weren't enough.
I have fibre to my house and it's great. . . and stupidly cheap as well.
Don't most US based homes have fibre direct to the premises? or do you have a mix of vdsl/adsl/fibre depending on state?
ha. . . maybe 1% of us homes have fibre to the house. I'm in that lucky percentage.
wow, didn't honestly know how it is out there!
So most people on adsl??adsl or copper yeah.
And with our joke of a government it is likely to stay this way.
Crazy, the top grossing country in the world and your government is not even investing in it's infrastructure...you could probably pay for it tenfold if you didn't spend as much on your military lol..
Something something patriotism... something something socialism. 'Murica.
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@dbeato The Update File is below
https://files.zimbra.com/downloads/8.8.6_GA_HF/zcs-patch-8.8.6_GA_HF_108839.tgz -
https://arstechnica.com/?p=1264509#p3
It's starting! Here's hoping it meets the marketing.
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@coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??
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@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??
Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .
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@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??
Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .
Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.
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@dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??
Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .
Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.
Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as their budget has consistently shrunk year after year.
But the science and mission of NASA is great.
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@jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
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@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??
Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .
Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.
Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as their budget has consistently shrunk year after year.
But the science and mission of NASA is great.
This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.
While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.
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@coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??
Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .
Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.
Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as their budget has consistently shrunk year after year.
But the science and mission of NASA is great.
This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.
While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.
I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.
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@kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??
Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .
Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.
Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as their budget has consistently shrunk year after year.
But the science and mission of NASA is great.
This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.
While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.
I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.
If they worked in tandem with each other with defined scope, roles, and responsibilities, then I would see that being the best. NASA be in charge of getting the stuff into space. NOAA will take care of the satellite and reporting back. Heck. Cut NASA out and just contract with Space-X to get it up there. NASA is just the facilitator.
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@nerdydad said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??
Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .
Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.
Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as their budget has consistently shrunk year after year.
But the science and mission of NASA is great.
This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.
While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.
I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.
If they worked in tandem with each other with defined scope, roles, and responsibilities, then I would see that being the best. NASA be in charge of getting the stuff into space. NOAA will take care of the satellite and reporting back. Heck. Cut NASA out and just contract with Space-X to get it up there. NASA is just the facilitator.
It's like how IT Buyers just hire other people to do the job they are tasked with. You can cut them out and let the business do that directly and save all that money.
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@kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??
Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .
Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.
Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as theirbudget has consistently shrunk year after year.
But the science and mission of NASA is great.
This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.
While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.
I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.
Because they don’t generally do the same research, and what NASA does is passed to the rest of the science community.
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@nerdydad said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??
Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .
Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.
Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as their budget has consistently shrunk year after year.
But the science and mission of NASA is great.
This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.
While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.
I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.
If they worked in tandem with each other with defined scope, roles, and responsibilities, then I would see that being the best. NASA be in charge of getting the stuff into space. NOAA will take care of the satellite and reporting back. Heck. Cut NASA out and just contract with Space-X to get it up there. NASA is just the facilitator.
That is a total lack of understanding
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@nerdydad said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??
Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .
Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.
Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as their budget has consistently shrunk year after year.
But the science and mission of NASA is great.
This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.
While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.
I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.
If they worked in tandem with each other with defined scope, roles, and responsibilities, then I would see that being the best. NASA be in charge of getting the stuff into space. NOAA will take care of the satellite and reporting back. Heck. Cut NASA out and just contract with Space-X to get it up there. NASA is just the facilitator.
It's like how IT Buyers just hire other people to do the job they are tasked with. You can cut them out and let the business do that directly and save all that money.
Except that is not how it is setup.
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@jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??
Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .
Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.
Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as theirbudget has consistently shrunk year after year.
But the science and mission of NASA is great.
This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.
While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.
I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.
Because they don’t generally do the same research, and what NASA does is passed to the rest of the science community.
But NASA's mission doesn't include the earth, and NOAA's specifically does. I'm not saying that NASA shouldn't collect data if they are the ones handling the satellites, but they shouldn't be doing the research. That is like the army having airplanes. Oh wait... It still doesn't make sense imo.
