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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      If you read the descriptions and definitions, Smart TVs are definitely not IoT by any industry definition, meaning, or intention.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_of_things

      IoT refers to ordinary things connected to the Internet. There are loads of ways to describe this, but common sense should be enough. IoT mostly refers to sensor style devices, things that have always existed, but not can be controlled or monitored via a network. That's totally different than "network / compute centric devices" like laptops, desktops, servers, smart phones, smart TVs, etc. that are Internet / computer products at their core.

      IoT is about connecting non-compute / non-network objects. Thermostats, for example. They don't need the Internet to function, but you can use the Internet to monitor them. It is IoT because it is an everyday, non-compute object that has been connected to the Internet.

      A smart TV is absolutely the opposite. A Smart TV doesn't work if it is not on the Internet, it's function as a Smart TV is to stream network content.

      IoT requires that the primary function(s) of a device not be compute or network based, and that those abilities be ancillary.

      This has always, from day one, been the intent of the definition, and it has never varied.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        What would be IoT is a non-smart TV that is monitored from the Internet, but is just used for watching local content. These exist, but are not what was being discussed. Smart TVs, as with any "Smart" product, cannot be IoT. Smart = Not IoT.

        An IoT TV would be weird, but plausible. Like you could turn it off with an Internet remote, or change the channel from Canada while on vacation. But it isn't Smart, just a normal TV with a nearly senseless Internet option.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          OK fine - I'll give you all that.

          People need to look at their TVs just like how they look at their smart phones and laptops/desktops, etc.

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          • brandon220B
            brandon220
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            Managed switch and vlan all the IoT devices off of the regular network.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @brandon220
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              @brandon220 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              Managed switch and vlan all the IoT devices off of the regular network.

              Is there an article or are you just telling us?

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @brandon220
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                @brandon220 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                Managed switch and vlan all the IoT devices off of the regular network.

                great idea - definitely not something for the typical home user to do.

                Also - much of that crap out there requires putting the phone/computer on the same network as the devices to work - broadcast crap and all, so this would break a ton of shit assuming you put your phone/laptop on the protected/safe network, and all that other crap (including the TV) on the segregated one.

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                  Shmoe @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender or you manage them 'out of the home' every time.. as good as this solution sounds, it's very cumbersome in real use.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by Dashrender

                    Linux Kernel Panic bug

                    https://www.itprotoday.com/linux/netflix-finds-bug-creates-linux-kernel-panic

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                    • brandon220B
                      brandon220 @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 That's what I do at my house. I have an IoT vlan and all that stuff goes in it. Firewalled off in my edgerouter too. Those devices can still communicate with the internet but not with my home network. Works great.

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                      • mlnewsM
                        mlnews
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                        Exchange Server June Cumulative Updates Arrive, but with Red Tape

                        Microsoft released its quarterly cumulative updates (CUs) for Exchange Server 2013, 2016 and 2019 products this week.
                        The patching model for most Exchange Server products is based on the quarterly delivery of CUs.

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                        • mlnewsM
                          mlnews
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                          Microsoft Previews Azure Bastion Service for Private VM Access

                          Microsoft on Tuesday announced a preview of the Azure Bastion service
                          This new managed service was created as an additional safeguard for organizations that don't want to connect to Azure VMs using public Internet connections

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                          • mlnewsM
                            mlnews
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                            OpenMandriva Linux 4.0 Operating System Officially Released, Here's What's New

                            The OpenMandriva community announced the general availability of the OpenMandriva Lx 4.0
                            operating system, a major release that brings numerous new features, updated components, and lots of improvements.

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                            • mlnewsM
                              mlnews
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                              Microsoft Previews New Edge Browser on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1

                              Microsoft announced this week that it has released previews of its Chromium-based Microsoft Edge Web browsers for use on Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 systems.

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                              • dbeatoD
                                dbeato @mlnews
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                                @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                Exchange Server June Cumulative Updates Arrive, but with Red Tape

                                Microsoft released its quarterly cumulative updates (CUs) for Exchange Server 2013, 2016 and 2019 products this week.
                                The patching model for most Exchange Server products is based on the quarterly delivery of CUs.

                                Yeah, that has a lot of changes. Albeit good but can cause big issues.

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates
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                                  https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-19-10-drops-32-bit-support/

                                  Ubuntu drops support for 32 bit. Valve also decided to drop support for Ubuntu going forward.

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                                  • black3dynamiteB
                                    black3dynamite @stacksofplates
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                                    @stacksofplates said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-19-10-drops-32-bit-support/

                                    Ubuntu drops support for 32 bit. Valve also decided to drop support for Ubuntu going forward.

                                    Why is Valve so determine to support 32 bit? Are they ever planning on moving on from 32 bit?

                                    Edit: Nevermind. Its the older 32 bit games that will be affected.

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @black3dynamite
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                                      @black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @stacksofplates said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-19-10-drops-32-bit-support/

                                      Ubuntu drops support for 32 bit. Valve also decided to drop support for Ubuntu going forward.

                                      Why is Valve so determine to support 32 bit? Are they ever planning on moving on from 32 bit?

                                      Edit: Nevermind. Its the older 32 bit games that will be affected.

                                      Yeah their software is fine. It's all of the older games people have that will be affected.

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                                      • hobbit666H
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                                        Rogue slug blamed for Japanese railway chaos

                                        A power cut that disrupted rail traffic on a Japanese island last month was caused by a slug, officials say.

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @hobbit666
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                                          @hobbit666 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          Rogue slug blamed for Japanese railway chaos

                                          A power cut that disrupted rail traffic on a Japanese island last month was caused by a slug, officials say.

                                          Fried slug for diner?

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                                            mlnews
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                                            Microsoft Suggests Disabling Old Protocols with Exchange Server 2019

                                            The Exchange team, in a Friday announcement, explained how Exchange Server 2019 with Cumulative Update 2 (CU2)
                                            can help organizations rid themselves of old authentication protocols, which constitute a potential security risk.

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