Is Ubuntu more secure then CentOS out of the box?
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- In Ubuntu the root account is disabled by default.
- In Ubuntu doesn't install OpenSSH server by default, you have to select it during installation.
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No, CentOS is well known for being more secure and Ubuntu less compared to each other. In general, CentOS is about as secure as an OS gets out of the box and Ubuntu is famously "so so".
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@aaronstuder said in Is Ubuntu more secure then CentOS out of the box?:
- In Ubuntu the root account is disabled by default.
Not really a factor of any merit. That they do this is really quite silly. Especially as SSH is disabled.
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@aaronstuder said in Is Ubuntu more secure then CentOS out of the box?:
- In Ubuntu doesn't install OpenSSH server by default, you have to select it during installation.
You can make an argument for this being more secure, but it's SO much a "turn it on or off as needed" thing that everyone ignores this as a factor. If you need SSH (99% of people do) then that it is off by default does nothing to protect you.
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@scottalanmiller said in Is Ubuntu more secure then CentOS out of the box?:
No, CentOS is well known for being more secure and Ubuntu less compared to each other. In general, CentOS is about as secure as an OS gets out of the box and Ubuntu is famously "so so".
Well all except that infamous CentOS 7 minimal release a few years back that forgot to ship firewalld as part of the build.
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@JaredBusch said in Is Ubuntu more secure then CentOS out of the box?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is Ubuntu more secure then CentOS out of the box?:
No, CentOS is well known for being more secure and Ubuntu less compared to each other. In general, CentOS is about as secure as an OS gets out of the box and Ubuntu is famously "so so".
Well all except that infamous CentOS 7 minimal release a few years back that forgot to ship firewalld as part of the build.
LOL, yeah. That one. Ugh.
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@scottalanmiller said in Is Ubuntu more secure then CentOS out of the box?:
@JaredBusch said in Is Ubuntu more secure then CentOS out of the box?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is Ubuntu more secure then CentOS out of the box?:
No, CentOS is well known for being more secure and Ubuntu less compared to each other. In general, CentOS is about as secure as an OS gets out of the box and Ubuntu is famously "so so".
Well all except that infamous CentOS 7 minimal release a few years back that forgot to ship firewalld as part of the build.
LOL, yeah. That one. Ugh.
The next monthly build had it back in there, but the "release" builds are only updated like yearly. so it was around forever..
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@JaredBusch said in Is Ubuntu more secure then CentOS out of the box?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is Ubuntu more secure then CentOS out of the box?:
@JaredBusch said in Is Ubuntu more secure then CentOS out of the box?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is Ubuntu more secure then CentOS out of the box?:
No, CentOS is well known for being more secure and Ubuntu less compared to each other. In general, CentOS is about as secure as an OS gets out of the box and Ubuntu is famously "so so".
Well all except that infamous CentOS 7 minimal release a few years back that forgot to ship firewalld as part of the build.
LOL, yeah. That one. Ugh.
The next monthly build had it back in there, but the "release" builds are only updated like yearly. so it was around forever..
That was so annoying!
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I wonder if it was an accident between it and the cloud images. The cloud images don't have firewalld installed.
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@stacksofplates said in Is Ubuntu more secure then CentOS out of the box?:
I wonder if it was an accident between it and the cloud images. The cloud images don't have firewalld installed.
it had some odd stuff enabled compared to the standard iso even. there is a thread on it here from back then.
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@JaredBusch said in Is Ubuntu more secure then CentOS out of the box?:
@stacksofplates said in Is Ubuntu more secure then CentOS out of the box?:
I wonder if it was an accident between it and the cloud images. The cloud images don't have firewalld installed.
it had some odd stuff enabled compared to the standard iso even. there is a thread on it here from back then.
Oh ok. I didn't realize that wasn't the only difference. I always download the full DVD ISO and do a minimal install from that.
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My vote for security would be CentOS or Suse.
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@aaronstuder
OpenSSH installation is the one thing I always have to do when installation finishes with Ubuntu Servers, so it is always an extra step for me. And I dont like how they are messing with openssh config frequently lately.