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      Jimmy9008 @Jimmy9008
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      @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

      @EddieJennings

      @EddieJennings said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

      @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

      So, select host only, and use the machine FQDNs?

      And you'll probably have to change the wildcard mask to match all parts of the IP of the host.

      Can ip be used with host selected, but mask left empty you think?

      With host selected, wild card is defaulted to 0.0.0.0 and disabled. So cannot edit that anyway with host selected.

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        EddieJennings @Jimmy9008
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        @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

        @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

        @EddieJennings

        @EddieJennings said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

        @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

        So, select host only, and use the machine FQDNs?

        And you'll probably have to change the wildcard mask to match all parts of the IP of the host.

        Can ip be used with host selected, but mask left empty you think?

        With host selected, wild card is defaulted to 0.0.0.0 and disabled. So cannot edit that anyway with host selected.

        That makes sense as the wildcard would be 0.0.0.0.

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          dafyre @Jimmy9008
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          @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

          @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

          @EddieJennings

          @EddieJennings said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

          @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

          So, select host only, and use the machine FQDNs?

          And you'll probably have to change the wildcard mask to match all parts of the IP of the host.

          Can ip be used with host selected, but mask left empty you think?

          With host selected, wild card is defaulted to 0.0.0.0 and disabled. So cannot edit that anyway with host selected.

          That's probably the option you are looking for then.

          *puts on a dang helmet and hides under desk.*

          Ready when you are!

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            Jimmy9008 @dafyre
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            @dafyre said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

            @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

            @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

            @EddieJennings

            @EddieJennings said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

            @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

            So, select host only, and use the machine FQDNs?

            And you'll probably have to change the wildcard mask to match all parts of the IP of the host.

            Can ip be used with host selected, but mask left empty you think?

            With host selected, wild card is defaulted to 0.0.0.0 and disabled. So cannot edit that anyway with host selected.

            That's probably the option you are looking for then.

            *puts on a dang helmet and hides under desk.*

            Ready when you are!

            Have to move some critical VMs off of that interface before trying again first.
            With the N2048's, does deny take precedence over allow?

            For example, can I deny range 192.168.2.60 - 80 first. Then next following rule allow 192.168.2.69 only? Or would deny stick?

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              dafyre @Jimmy9008
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              @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

              @dafyre said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

              @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

              @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

              @EddieJennings

              @EddieJennings said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

              @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

              So, select host only, and use the machine FQDNs?

              And you'll probably have to change the wildcard mask to match all parts of the IP of the host.

              Can ip be used with host selected, but mask left empty you think?

              With host selected, wild card is defaulted to 0.0.0.0 and disabled. So cannot edit that anyway with host selected.

              That's probably the option you are looking for then.

              *puts on a dang helmet and hides under desk.*

              Ready when you are!

              Have to move some critical VMs off of that interface before trying again first.
              With the N2048's, does deny take precedence over allow?

              For example, can I deny range 192.168.2.60 - 80 first. Then next following rule allow 192.168.2.69 only? Or would deny stick?

              That I'm not sure about.

              IIRC, on Cisco and HP devices, it's allow and then deny. It's been a while since I've had to test that theory though, so don't quote me on it.

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              • EddieJenningsE
                EddieJennings
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                I thought it was the order of the ACLs (at least on Cisco stuff). Once there is a match, everything else is ignored.

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                  dafyre @EddieJennings
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                  @EddieJennings said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                  I thought it was the order of the ACLs (at least on Cisco stuff). Once there is a match, everything else is ignored.

                  I think you may well be right. But like I said above -- it has been a while for me.

                  Best I can tell @Jimmy9008 is to try it and let us know what happens, ha ha ha.

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                    Jimmy9008
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                    Once the critical VMs are moved, I shall have a play and see.

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                      Jimmy9008 @dafyre
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                      @dafyre

                      @dafyre said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                      @EddieJennings said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                      I thought it was the order of the ACLs (at least on Cisco stuff). Once there is a match, everything else is ignored.

                      I think you may well be right. But like I said above -- it has been a while for me.

                      Best I can tell @Jimmy9008 is to try it and let us know what happens, ha ha ha.

                      😉

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                        Jimmy9008
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                        So... VMs moved. Rule applied based only on host.... and 3... 2... 1... still brought down everything trying to connect to anything on te1... current rule:

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                        Ideas? Must be missing something obvious. Or is the dell firmware buggered!

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                        • EddieJenningsE
                          EddieJennings @Jimmy9008
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                          @Jimmy9008 Why not turn on logging, and see if that shows you what's matching the rule.

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                            Jimmy9008 @EddieJennings
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                            @EddieJennings said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                            @Jimmy9008 Why not turn on logging, and see if that shows you what's matching the rule.

                            Logging is enabled now. But, no logs are being generated showing the dropped traffic.

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                              dafyre @Jimmy9008
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                              @Jimmy9008 Is the traffic still being dropped?

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                                Jimmy9008 @dafyre
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                                @dafyre said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                @Jimmy9008 Is the traffic still being dropped?

                                Yep. Sadly. Should be a simple rule. Think host has to be fqdn?

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                                  dafyre
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                                  You should have both source AND destination set to host.

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                                    dafyre @Jimmy9008
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                                    @Jimmy9008 said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                    @dafyre said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                    @Jimmy9008 Is the traffic still being dropped?

                                    Yep. Sadly. Should be a simple rule. Think host has to be fqdn?

                                    I doubt it. At this level, things only care about ip addresses most likely.

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                                      Jimmy9008 @dafyre
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                                      @dafyre

                                      @dafyre said in Dell N2048 Switch and IP ACL - I just killed part of my network...:

                                      You should have both source AND destination set to host.

                                      They are. Both source and destination are set to host.

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                                      • EddieJenningsE
                                        EddieJennings
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                                        Did you turn on logging? Did it show anything? Sometimes how something is logged can give a clue as to how it's matching a rule.

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                                          dafyre
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                                          And it's still blocking traffic to the entire subnet?

                                          Try removing and re-adding the rule to the interface?

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                                            Jimmy9008
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                                            ... I've at least got it working. Its just, not ideal, I will contact Dell as it doesn't sound correct.

                                            So, turns out from the testing I've done, that once an ACL is applied to an interface, all traffic to that interface will drop. Even if no drop rules are added. Its all = deny as soon as ACL is added to te1.

                                            You have to specifically add a rule to allow something through. I have added IP for another machine on the LAN 2.x to be allowed to 2.41, and that one machine can contact 2.41.

                                            The server 2.117 cannot, which is correct. But I cant imagine adding everything that needs access is manageable or maintainable...

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