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    • matteo nunziatiM
      matteo nunziati
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      I've powered on a brand new dl380g9 today and I've discovered that some features available in my "old" dl160g9 are now subject to extra licensing.

      e.g., with my basic iLO in the dl160 I was able to use remote console even after POST, now I can't on the dl380.
      I was able to setup my e-mail address for alerts from iLO, now I need an additional license.

      mmm... both systems have the bundled iLO version, which , to be honest, I do not expect to be stripped down in a dl380 wrt a dl160, as the former costs something like 3x the latter.

      only difference is in firmware version: the dl380 has a newer one. really thinking about NOT upgrading the dl160 iLO. grrr 😠

      maybe I'm missing something or HPE is going more oracle-ish day after day...

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        All I hear is HPE stuff getting worse and worse.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @matteo nunziati
          last edited by

          @matteo-nunziati Dell has had their iDRAC express (free/included) gimped from day one.

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          • momurdaM
            momurda
            last edited by

            These ilo and drac are for remote control of host machines just like IPMI from Supermicro?

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            • mlnewsM
              mlnews @momurda
              last edited by

              @momurda said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

              These ilo and drac are for remote control of host machines just like IPMI from Supermicro?

              Yes. -Scott

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              • Emad RE
                Emad R
                last edited by

                Lenovo IBM servers have the same thing, free only gives you basic stuff and health monitoring, while paid allows you to remote connect to console.

                I checked the license and its around ~300 USD.

                They all learn from each other.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @Emad R
                  last edited by

                  @msff-amman-Itofficer said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                  Lenovo IBM servers have the same thing, free only gives you basic stuff and health monitoring, while paid allows you to remote connect to console.

                  I checked the license and its around ~300 USD.

                  They all learn from each other.

                  SuperMicro VARs are looking better every day, or did they start charging for IPMI features as well?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                    last edited by

                    @travisdh1 said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                    SuperMicro VARs are looking better every day, or did they start charging for IPMI features as well?

                    Not as far as I know. SuperMicro is definitely the big winner from HPE and Lenovo falling apart. Dell and SuperMicro are the only vendors I even consider in the US today. Fujitsu outside of the US (just hard to get in the US.)

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                    • Deleted74295D
                      Deleted74295 Banned
                      last edited by

                      Deployed a HPE server last year. Painful beyond belief. Making me twitchy about using them again.

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                      • C
                        Carnival Boy
                        last edited by

                        Why?

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                        • IRJI
                          IRJ
                          last edited by IRJ

                          The HP iLO software is full of vulnerabilities. It has to be updated constantly. It is terrible.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IRJ
                            last edited by

                            @IRJ said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                            The HP iLO software is full of vulnerabilities. It has to be updated constantly. It is terrible.

                            And doesn't it STILL require Java on the clients!

                            FFS

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                @IRJ said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                The HP iLO software is full of vulnerabilities. It has to be updated constantly. It is terrible.

                                And doesn't it STILL require Java on the clients!

                                FFS

                                Dell requires Java

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @JaredBusch said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                  @IRJ said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                  The HP iLO software is full of vulnerabilities. It has to be updated constantly. It is terrible.

                                  And doesn't it STILL require Java on the clients!

                                  FFS

                                  Dell requires Java

                                  @JaredBusch said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                  @IRJ said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                  The HP iLO software is full of vulnerabilities. It has to be updated constantly. It is terrible.

                                  And doesn't it STILL require Java on the clients!

                                  FFS

                                  Dell requires Java

                                  Fail and more fail.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                    @JaredBusch said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                    @IRJ said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                    The HP iLO software is full of vulnerabilities. It has to be updated constantly. It is terrible.

                                    And doesn't it STILL require Java on the clients!

                                    FFS

                                    Dell requires Java

                                    @JaredBusch said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                    @IRJ said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                    The HP iLO software is full of vulnerabilities. It has to be updated constantly. It is terrible.

                                    And doesn't it STILL require Java on the clients!

                                    FFS

                                    Dell requires Java

                                    Fail and more fail.

                                    It's only if you want to remote consul so not totally horrible the pages work just fine without it it's just Webb

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @JaredBusch said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                      @JaredBusch said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                      @IRJ said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                      The HP iLO software is full of vulnerabilities. It has to be updated constantly. It is terrible.

                                      And doesn't it STILL require Java on the clients!

                                      FFS

                                      Dell requires Java

                                      @JaredBusch said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                      @IRJ said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                      The HP iLO software is full of vulnerabilities. It has to be updated constantly. It is terrible.

                                      And doesn't it STILL require Java on the clients!

                                      FFS

                                      Dell requires Java

                                      Fail and more fail.

                                      It's only if you want to remote consul so not totally horrible the pages work just fine without it it's just Webb

                                      I think IPMI managed to phase out Java, if I remember.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        I think the DL 300 series have always required I think the DL 300 series have always required an additional license.

                                        my old G5 required additional license in order to get remote console access.

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                                        • momurdaM
                                          momurda @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller
                                          My 2 XS hosts are running IPMI fw from 2014, unfortunately Java still required for things. Perhaps not in recent ones.

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                                          • matteo nunziatiM
                                            matteo nunziati @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                            @IRJ said in did HPE stripped down their basic iLO software?:

                                            The HP iLO software is full of vulnerabilities. It has to be updated constantly. It is terrible.

                                            And doesn't it STILL require Java on the clients!

                                            FFS

                                            Or .net

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