Flter: Privacy & Security Router



  • Has anyone heard of this device? Just came across in a digital feed I get.


    Flter is a network device that provides VPN protection, malicious ad blocking, and Tor network anonymity. Flter works at the router level so you don’t have to install software on every device you use. This is great for devices that don’t support these applications like gaming consoles, smart TVs, and media players. All you have to do is connect to Flter via WiFi or Ethernet.


    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/flter/flter-privacy-and-security-router?utm_source=kickbooster&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=link&utm_campaign=rx8cdgbt



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  • So it doesn't go inline between your wireless and modem? It just sits on the network? How would one install it? Something like a DNS blackhole and use it for your DNS?



  • The mobile aspect of this is interesting.



  • @NerdyDad said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    So it doesn't go inline between your wireless and modem? It just sits on the network? How would one install it? Something like a DNS blackhole and use it for your DNS?

    It's a router. So it has to be inline whatever it does.

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  • What mobile aspect?



  • @StrongBad said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    What mobile aspect?

    the add talks about taking it with you, so I'm assuming it can act as a *wireless to wireless router.

    You WiFi to the device, and then you connect to it's interface, use that to connect to the WiFi in where ever you are... and away you to.

    *corrected


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    @Dashrender said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    @StrongBad said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    What mobile aspect?

    the add talks about taking it with you, so I'm assuming it can act as a wireless bridge.

    You WiFi to the device, and then you connect to it's interface, use that to connect to the WiFi in where ever you are... and away you to.

    That seems like a big leap in assumption. Why do you think after calling itself a router that it would just "become a bridge" without mentioning it? You can take lots of things with you, but you don't expect them to become a bridge. Maybe you plug this in other places as a router.



  • @scottalanmiller said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    @Dashrender said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    @StrongBad said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    What mobile aspect?

    the add talks about taking it with you, so I'm assuming it can act as a wireless bridge.

    You WiFi to the device, and then you connect to it's interface, use that to connect to the WiFi in where ever you are... and away you to.

    That seems like a big leap in assumption. Why do you think after calling itself a router that it would just "become a bridge" without mentioning it? You can take lots of things with you, but you don't expect them to become a bridge. Maybe you plug this in other places as a router.

    OK Wordsmith - A wireless to wireless router... I don't actually mean a bridge, never did :)



  • The one bad thing about all their pictures and their video is that NONE of them show an ethernet port on it. I'm not sure how this thing is suppose to get between your home router and your cable modem. I assume there are ports on it... but if it's installed between your home router and your cable modem/DLS, whatever - then you have a high likeliness of having a double NAT issue.


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    @Dashrender said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    @scottalanmiller said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    @Dashrender said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    @StrongBad said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    What mobile aspect?

    the add talks about taking it with you, so I'm assuming it can act as a wireless bridge.

    You WiFi to the device, and then you connect to it's interface, use that to connect to the WiFi in where ever you are... and away you to.

    That seems like a big leap in assumption. Why do you think after calling itself a router that it would just "become a bridge" without mentioning it? You can take lots of things with you, but you don't expect them to become a bridge. Maybe you plug this in other places as a router.

    OK Wordsmith - A wireless to wireless router... I don't actually mean a bridge, never did :)

    Please stop implying that me listening to you is manipulating your words.


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    @Dashrender said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    The one bad thing about all their pictures and their video is that NONE of them show an ethernet port on it. I'm not sure how this thing is suppose to get between your home router and your cable modem. I assume there are ports on it... but if it's installed between your home router and your cable modem/DLS, whatever - then you have a high likeliness of having a double NAT issue.

    I'm assuming that double NAT is how it works. Another problem is... how many people have a bridge AND a router already? Not me, I replace the one with the other. This seems to want you to have one bridge and two routers for every house? That seems a bit over the top.


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    I hate when these companies make these products and offer zero clear statement as to what they even do. If they can't or don't explain it, they've convinced me that they don't have anything worth buying. If it was actually good, they'd be excited to tell us why.



  • So, looking at their specs on the kickstarter, it is another router that goes between your modem & wifi, or it can be your wifi. It is shown to be able to be used out in the public but does not show how that happens. It says it has 2 network connections and a wifi connection (at just the 2.4 GHz, really?). At $130, is it worth it?

    I can understand Ad blocking, and maybe VPN, but do we want common people working with Tor? This might be better advertised to journalists with some given training as about what it is, how it works, and how to use it properly. For your everyday consumer? Maybe not so much imo.


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    @NerdyDad said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    So, looking at their specs on the kickstarter, it is another router that goes between your modem & wifi, or it can be your wifi. It is shown to be able to be used out in the public but does not show how that happens. It says it has 2 network connections and a wifi connection (at just the 2.4 GHz, really?). At $130, is it worth it?

    I can understand Ad blocking, and maybe VPN, but do we want common people working with Tor? This might be better advertised to journalists with some given training as about what it is, how it works, and how to use it properly. For your everyday consumer? Maybe not so much imo.

    Yeah, this seems like an odd, and complicated, product for home users.



  • @scottalanmiller said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    @Dashrender said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    @scottalanmiller said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    @Dashrender said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    @StrongBad said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    What mobile aspect?

    the add talks about taking it with you, so I'm assuming it can act as a wireless bridge.

    You WiFi to the device, and then you connect to it's interface, use that to connect to the WiFi in where ever you are... and away you to.

    That seems like a big leap in assumption. Why do you think after calling itself a router that it would just "become a bridge" without mentioning it? You can take lots of things with you, but you don't expect them to become a bridge. Maybe you plug this in other places as a router.

    OK Wordsmith - A wireless to wireless router... I don't actually mean a bridge, never did :)

    Please stop implying that me listening to you is manipulating your words.

    You got me - I used the wrong word - I did correct my post.



  • @scottalanmiller said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    @Dashrender said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    The one bad thing about all their pictures and their video is that NONE of them show an ethernet port on it. I'm not sure how this thing is suppose to get between your home router and your cable modem. I assume there are ports on it... but if it's installed between your home router and your cable modem/DLS, whatever - then you have a high likeliness of having a double NAT issue.

    I'm assuming that double NAT is how it works. Another problem is... how many people have a bridge AND a router already? Not me, I replace the one with the other. This seems to want you to have one bridge and two routers for every house? That seems a bit over the top.

    Where do you see the bridge in this situation?



  • @NerdyDad said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    So, looking at their specs on the kickstarter, it is another router that goes between your modem & wifi, or it can be your wifi. It is shown to be able to be used out in the public but does not show how that happens. It says it has 2 network connections and a wifi connection (at just the 2.4 GHz, really?). At $130, is it worth it?

    I can understand Ad blocking, and maybe VPN, but do we want common people working with Tor? This might be better advertised to journalists with some given training as about what it is, how it works, and how to use it properly. For your everyday consumer? Maybe not so much imo.

    What's wrong with TOR for normal home users other than it slows your junk down? Now of course the lack of locality and other tracking that we've become to accustomed to will definitely through people for a loop.


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    @Dashrender said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    What's wrong with TOR for normal home users other than it slows your junk down?

    Better not be anyone messing with MY junk!


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    @Dashrender said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    Now of course the lack of locality and other tracking that we've become to accustomed to will definitely through people for a loop.

    Could impact a lot of services, I've not used Tor so don't know how big it would be for a normal home user.



  • @Dashrender said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    @NerdyDad said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    So, looking at their specs on the kickstarter, it is another router that goes between your modem & wifi, or it can be your wifi. It is shown to be able to be used out in the public but does not show how that happens. It says it has 2 network connections and a wifi connection (at just the 2.4 GHz, really?). At $130, is it worth it?

    I can understand Ad blocking, and maybe VPN, but do we want common people working with Tor? This might be better advertised to journalists with some given training as about what it is, how it works, and how to use it properly. For your everyday consumer? Maybe not so much imo.

    What's wrong with TOR for normal home users other than it slows your junk down? Now of course the lack of locality and other tracking that we've become to accustomed to will definitely through people for a loop.

    You ever train somebody else to hit the onion instead of the e in order for them to go to facebook to see their pictures? Good luck with that.



  • @NerdyDad said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    @Dashrender said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    @NerdyDad said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    So, looking at their specs on the kickstarter, it is another router that goes between your modem & wifi, or it can be your wifi. It is shown to be able to be used out in the public but does not show how that happens. It says it has 2 network connections and a wifi connection (at just the 2.4 GHz, really?). At $130, is it worth it?

    I can understand Ad blocking, and maybe VPN, but do we want common people working with Tor? This might be better advertised to journalists with some given training as about what it is, how it works, and how to use it properly. For your everyday consumer? Maybe not so much imo.

    What's wrong with TOR for normal home users other than it slows your junk down? Now of course the lack of locality and other tracking that we've become to accustomed to will definitely through people for a loop.

    You ever train somebody else to hit the onion instead of the e in order for them to go to facebook to see their pictures? Good luck with that.

    Only people who understand what this stuff even is would even consider buying it. So there is that.



  • @scottalanmiller said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    @Dashrender said in Flter: Privacy & Security Router:

    Now of course the lack of locality and other tracking that we've become to accustomed to will definitely through people for a loop.

    Could impact a lot of services, I've not used Tor so don't know how big it would be for a normal home user.

    I use it all the time. I generally only have it setup for one browser on any given system. It does slow things down a lot.



  • I've used tor, it's functional, but removes a lot of what most people consider useful from most websites.



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