What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?

art_of_shred

@Dashrender said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

@Minion-Queen said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

Since we have SAM and he is anti windows, I will list our clients stuff

Client 1: 99% Windows
Client 2: 90% Windows
Client 3: 100% Windows
Client 4: 99% Windows
Client 5: 90% Windows

In most cases the only server that's not windows is a PBX server.

either your precentages are off, or your clients have a huge number of servers

Poor math skills...
She is counting VM's and not physical boxes alone, and her percentages are not accurate. On average, most of those clients have 1 or 2 Linux VM's and every other thing (server or workstation) in their environment is Windows. It's a very low percentage of Linux anything that we ever deal with.

scottalanmiller

@Minion-Queen said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

Since we have SAM and he is anti windows, I will list our clients stuff

SAM has nothing against MS, just pro-business and if the Windows tax isn't justified, we don't use it. It's not at all related to being anti-Microsoft.

scottalanmiller

We are down to one legacy Windows app server. All Linux beyond that. That one is slated to be moved, but hasn't been a priority in quite some time. It is a .NET app that has to be ported to .NET on Linux.

momurda

50% MS here, almost exactly. Rest are various linux servers.

scottalanmiller

@Minion-Queen said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

Since we have SAM and he is anti windows, I will list our clients stuff

Client 1: 99% Windows
Client 2: 90% Windows
Client 3: 100% Windows
Client 4: 99% Windows
Client 5: 90% Windows

In most cases the only server that's not windows is a PBX server.

Funny, you assign me to customers that are 50% Windows. Why aren't those in the list? And it's not their PBXs on something other than Windows. I think you are skipping loads of the workloads just because they don't generate many outages.

brianlittlejohn

Just decommissioned 3 exchange servers today... 7 out of 11 are windows servers currently, but the number of linux servers is growing here.

Dashrender

One thing a question like this doesn't really account for - is OS sprawl. i.e. one install per function. Of course there are huge advantages to this (i.e. you need to update/reboot the Unifi server, nothing else is affected), it quickly grows the number on 'nix boxes compared to Windows boxes because of the a fore mentioned Windows Tax.

scottalanmiller

@brianlittlejohn said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

Just decommissioned 3 exchange servers today... 7 out of 11 are windows servers currently, but the number of linux servers is growing here.

I deal with a lot of FreeBSD servers, too, it seems.

scottalanmiller

@Dashrender said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

One thing a question like this doesn't really account for - is OS sprawl. i.e. one install per function. Of course there are huge advantages to this (i.e. you need to update/reboot the Unifi server, nothing else is affected), it quickly grows the number on 'nix boxes compared to Windows boxes because of the a fore mentioned Windows Tax.

Yeah, Linux and BSD naturally grow in the hosted world by leaps and bounds because of licensing and cloud hosting costs.

http://www.smbitjournal.com/2010/05/linux-virtualization-deployment-advantage/

Seven years old now!

Minion Queen

We have one client that has FreeBSD, and I have no idea what else there is in their environment since this is the only thing we have physically worked on for them. You do get brought in to work on a small project here and there for liniux stuff but again we know the one thing in their environment for the project and not the full thing. So I can't speak to what their environments are since we have no idea.

travisdh1

Zero. All Linux of some sort.

scottalanmiller

@travisdh1 said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

Zero. All Linux of some sort.

Can't wait till we are there. Just have that one pesky old server to sort out.

JaredBusch

Does running Hyper-V server count? I mean it is Microsoft.

Client A:

Hyper Server 2012 R2 x 2
Server 2012 R2 Standard VM x2
CentOS 7 VM x3

So either 57.14% (4 of 7) or 40.0% (2/5) depending on if the Hypervisor counts.

scottalanmiller

@JaredBusch said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

Does running Hyper-V server count? I mean it is Microsoft.

Client A:

Hyper Server 2012 R2 x 2

Server 2012 R2 Standard VM x2

CentOS 7 VM x3

So either 57.14% (4 of 7) or 40.0% (2/5) depending on if the Hypervisor counts.

I don't think that the hypervisor counts, or else VMware would count against the MS count, too.

IRJ

@scottalanmiller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

@JaredBusch said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

Does running Hyper-V server count? I mean it is Microsoft.

Client A:

Hyper Server 2012 R2 x 2

Server 2012 R2 Standard VM x2

CentOS 7 VM x3

So either 57.14% (4 of 7) or 40.0% (2/5) depending on if the Hypervisor counts.

I don't think that the hypervisor counts, or else VMware would count against the MS count, too.

You still have to patch it and do more management then you would with VMware

Obsolesce

Linux = 28.75%
Windows = 71.25%

Physical Linux: 13
Physical Windows: 14

Virtual Linux: 10
Virtual Windows: 43 (because of DataCenter licensing)

DustinB3403

@Tim_G Why is any of it physical?

MattSpeller

@DustinB3403 said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

@Tim_G Why is any of it physical?

If his place is anything like mine there's just stuff you haven't gotten to yet

Obsolesce

@MattSpeller said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

@DustinB3403 said in What percentage of servers in your organization are Microsoft?:

@Tim_G Why is any of it physical?

If his place is anything like mine there's just stuff you haven't gotten to yet

This pretty much says it all.

There was a lot of custom stuff before I started. So it's not as simple running P2V, bang bang done. At the same time consolidating. There was definite physical server sprawl, complicated configurations. Much of it was old outdated Linux and Windows physical servers such as 2000, 2003, wayyyy (old) unsupported CentOS, FreeBSD, and Ubuntu. A bunch of other stuff that couldn't be virtualized. So not only couldn't I do P2V, it had to be rebuilt from scratch on a different OS... Software updated, the list goes on.

How it was when I started, all the VMs were physical, plus more because of too much role separation. Plus a lot of IPODs with old SANs and such (no clustering).

It started out as a garage shop, grew to a multinational company in like 30 countries, and never left the garage shop mentality... so you can use your imagination to get a better picture of how thing were, and how far it has come with the numbers I provided. Lots of stuff coming up in the meantime too... huge projects.

Still a lot of work to do, and no time to do it.

coliver

77% Windows here. Lots of stuff could be ported over to *nix but there has been no drive to do it.