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scottalanmiller

@coliver said in What Are You Watching Now:

@kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:

@tim_g said in What Are You Watching Now:

Books are always better with everything.

Books contain so many more details and a ton more "time". If you duplicated a book to a movie you'd have like a 12+ hour movie and spend a billion dollars. YOu just can't. So it's all pick and choose.

I think Peter Jackson did a decent job with LotR, at least remaining true to the spirit of the story while not including 100% of the details.

Tolkien was terrible with prose. He couldn't write himself out of a box if he tried. His world building though was phenomenal, and that's really the only reason you read the LoTR or the Silmarillion. The Hobbit was slightly better but still only for the world elements.

Actually, I don't like his world building, either. I find his worlds to be two dimensional and nonsensical. It doesn't feel like a "living" world. Things are big and overdramatic in a world that is empty and pointless.

coliver

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@coliver said in What Are You Watching Now:

@kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:

@tim_g said in What Are You Watching Now:

Books are always better with everything.

Books contain so many more details and a ton more "time". If you duplicated a book to a movie you'd have like a 12+ hour movie and spend a billion dollars. YOu just can't. So it's all pick and choose.

I think Peter Jackson did a decent job with LotR, at least remaining true to the spirit of the story while not including 100% of the details.

Tolkien was terrible with prose. He couldn't write himself out of a box if he tried. His world building though was phenomenal, and that's really the only reason you read the LoTR or the Silmarillion. The Hobbit was slightly better but still only for the world elements.

Actually, I don't like his world building, either. I find his worlds to be two dimensional and nonsensical. It doesn't feel like a "living" world. Things are big and overdramatic in a world that is empty and pointless.

Which kind of fits the fantasy mold (which I guess he helped create so you have a point). It's not a living world persay but the historical depth and the grandiose elements are what most people see as world building.

scottalanmiller

@coliver said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@coliver said in What Are You Watching Now:

@kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:

@tim_g said in What Are You Watching Now:

Books are always better with everything.

Books contain so many more details and a ton more "time". If you duplicated a book to a movie you'd have like a 12+ hour movie and spend a billion dollars. YOu just can't. So it's all pick and choose.

I think Peter Jackson did a decent job with LotR, at least remaining true to the spirit of the story while not including 100% of the details.

Tolkien was terrible with prose. He couldn't write himself out of a box if he tried. His world building though was phenomenal, and that's really the only reason you read the LoTR or the Silmarillion. The Hobbit was slightly better but still only for the world elements.

Actually, I don't like his world building, either. I find his worlds to be two dimensional and nonsensical. It doesn't feel like a "living" world. Things are big and overdramatic in a world that is empty and pointless.

Which kind of fits the fantasy mold (which I guess he helped create so you have a point). It's not a living world persay but the historical depth and the grandiose elements are what most people see as world building.

that's actually where I feel it is bad... ridiculously in depth details that don't make sense in the tiny, flat world that isn't robust enough to handle the history.

I feel like he was so distracted writing the history, that he forgot to make the world.

momurda

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@coliver said in What Are You Watching Now:

@kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:

@tim_g said in What Are You Watching Now:

Books are always better with everything.

Books contain so many more details and a ton more "time". If you duplicated a book to a movie you'd have like a 12+ hour movie and spend a billion dollars. YOu just can't. So it's all pick and choose.

I think Peter Jackson did a decent job with LotR, at least remaining true to the spirit of the story while not including 100% of the details.

Tolkien was terrible with prose. He couldn't write himself out of a box if he tried. His world building though was phenomenal, and that's really the only reason you read the LoTR or the Silmarillion. The Hobbit was slightly better but still only for the world elements.

Actually, I don't like his world building, either. I find his worlds to be two dimensional and nonsensical. It doesn't feel like a "living" world. Things are big and overdramatic in a world that is empty and pointless.

Only my 2nd downvote ever on this site. You choose HP over LOTR, come on. Not even in the same league. HP is double A minor league in comparison to LOTR.

coliver

@momurda said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@coliver said in What Are You Watching Now:

@kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:

@tim_g said in What Are You Watching Now:

Books are always better with everything.

Books contain so many more details and a ton more "time". If you duplicated a book to a movie you'd have like a 12+ hour movie and spend a billion dollars. YOu just can't. So it's all pick and choose.

I think Peter Jackson did a decent job with LotR, at least remaining true to the spirit of the story while not including 100% of the details.

Tolkien was terrible with prose. He couldn't write himself out of a box if he tried. His world building though was phenomenal, and that's really the only reason you read the LoTR or the Silmarillion. The Hobbit was slightly better but still only for the world elements.

Actually, I don't like his world building, either. I find his worlds to be two dimensional and nonsensical. It doesn't feel like a "living" world. Things are big and overdramatic in a world that is empty and pointless.

Only my 2nd downvote ever on this site. You choose HP over LOTR, come on. Not even in the same league. HP is double A minor league in comparison to LOTR.

I don't know. HP actually has a coherent story in addition to decent world building, although she didn't go into a ton of depth where I wish there was some. LOTR can't even compare to that.

scottalanmiller

@momurda said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@coliver said in What Are You Watching Now:

@kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:

@tim_g said in What Are You Watching Now:

Books are always better with everything.

Books contain so many more details and a ton more "time". If you duplicated a book to a movie you'd have like a 12+ hour movie and spend a billion dollars. YOu just can't. So it's all pick and choose.

I think Peter Jackson did a decent job with LotR, at least remaining true to the spirit of the story while not including 100% of the details.

Tolkien was terrible with prose. He couldn't write himself out of a box if he tried. His world building though was phenomenal, and that's really the only reason you read the LoTR or the Silmarillion. The Hobbit was slightly better but still only for the world elements.

Actually, I don't like his world building, either. I find his worlds to be two dimensional and nonsensical. It doesn't feel like a "living" world. Things are big and overdramatic in a world that is empty and pointless.

Only my 2nd downvote ever on this site. You choose HP over LOTR, come on. Not even in the same league. HP is double A minor league in comparison to LOTR.

As movies go, LOtR rocks. But as books, very weak

HP the opposite.

scottalanmiller

Just watching Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban with the kids.

scottalanmiller

About to start Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire

flaxking

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@flaxking said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@flaxking said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

It's time for Harry Potter 2 on HBO!!

ouch

Yeah, the first two are pretty bad. But getting ready for the good ones.

I actually prefer the first two to the rest of them. Some fantastic costumes and sets, and some great casting.

You just have to deal with child acting and a not smoothed out book to movie translation.

If we have kids they're going to be shocked the first time they find out HP movies exist.

I don't mind the kids in teh first ones, they had to be rough, they were so young. It's the insanely trimmed story lines and focus on super goofy effects instead of the story. They went for so much broom flying, computer characters flailing around, and running from event to event and not establishing a mood. They are so trimmed, that if you don't read the books, they don't even quite make sense. My six year old complains that they are so cut compared to the books.

I haven't seen any movies made after the Goblet of Fire because of how drastically they cut the story down.

You quit too soon. They get better and better and by book seven they are amazing.

I'm starting to reconsider trusting everything you've ever said

We tried to go through all the movies again and made it through six before we gave up and declared it as not worth it.

And we've made it through all of the Bond movies.

flaxking

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@flaxking said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@flaxking said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

It's time for Harry Potter 2 on HBO!!

ouch

Yeah, the first two are pretty bad. But getting ready for the good ones.

I actually prefer the first two to the rest of them. Some fantastic costumes and sets, and some great casting.

You just have to deal with child acting and a not smoothed out book to movie translation.

If we have kids they're going to be shocked the first time they find out HP movies exist.

I don't mind the kids in teh first ones, they had to be rough, they were so young. It's the insanely trimmed story lines and focus on super goofy effects instead of the story. They went for so much broom flying, computer characters flailing around, and running from event to event and not establishing a mood. They are so trimmed, that if you don't read the books, they don't even quite make sense. My six year old complains that they are so cut compared to the books.

I wouldn't really say they are trimmed. All of the events are there, but it just jumps from event to event. All of the 'inbetween stuff' is what makes it flow in the book and helps set the mood. You can't really do that in a movie, but they didn't modify things so that they could set the mood through the strategies that movies have to use.

flaxking

@tim_g said in What Are You Watching Now:

Books are always better with everything.

Books contain so many more details and a ton more "time". If you duplicated a book to a movie you'd have like a 12+ hour movie and spend a billion dollars. YOu just can't. So it's all pick and choose.

Sometimes there are exceptions to the rule. The Hunger Games books are pretty bad. The first movie was REALLY bad, but then I believe it was the 2nd and 3rd movies that were actually better than the books. But the 4th movie was meh.

flaxking

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@momurda said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@coliver said in What Are You Watching Now:

@kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:

@tim_g said in What Are You Watching Now:

Books are always better with everything.

Books contain so many more details and a ton more "time". If you duplicated a book to a movie you'd have like a 12+ hour movie and spend a billion dollars. YOu just can't. So it's all pick and choose.

I think Peter Jackson did a decent job with LotR, at least remaining true to the spirit of the story while not including 100% of the details.

Tolkien was terrible with prose. He couldn't write himself out of a box if he tried. His world building though was phenomenal, and that's really the only reason you read the LoTR or the Silmarillion. The Hobbit was slightly better but still only for the world elements.

Actually, I don't like his world building, either. I find his worlds to be two dimensional and nonsensical. It doesn't feel like a "living" world. Things are big and overdramatic in a world that is empty and pointless.

Only my 2nd downvote ever on this site. You choose HP over LOTR, come on. Not even in the same league. HP is double A minor league in comparison to LOTR.

As movies go, LOtR rocks. But as books, very weak

HP the opposite.

JK Rowling is a fantastic author. I think I've read all of her books. We listen to the Harry Potter audiobooks every winter.

scottalanmiller

@flaxking said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@flaxking said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@flaxking said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

It's time for Harry Potter 2 on HBO!!

ouch

Yeah, the first two are pretty bad. But getting ready for the good ones.

I actually prefer the first two to the rest of them. Some fantastic costumes and sets, and some great casting.

You just have to deal with child acting and a not smoothed out book to movie translation.

If we have kids they're going to be shocked the first time they find out HP movies exist.

I don't mind the kids in teh first ones, they had to be rough, they were so young. It's the insanely trimmed story lines and focus on super goofy effects instead of the story. They went for so much broom flying, computer characters flailing around, and running from event to event and not establishing a mood. They are so trimmed, that if you don't read the books, they don't even quite make sense. My six year old complains that they are so cut compared to the books.

I haven't seen any movies made after the Goblet of Fire because of how drastically they cut the story down.

You quit too soon. They get better and better and by book seven they are amazing.

I'm starting to reconsider trusting everything you've ever said

We tried to go through all the movies again and made it through six before we gave up and declared it as not worth it.

And we've made it through all of the Bond movies.

The last two movies are REALLY good, a leap ahead of even #6.

flaxking

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@flaxking said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@kelly said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@flaxking said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

@flaxking said in What Are You Watching Now:

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

It's time for Harry Potter 2 on HBO!!

ouch

Yeah, the first two are pretty bad. But getting ready for the good ones.

I actually prefer the first two to the rest of them. Some fantastic costumes and sets, and some great casting.

You just have to deal with child acting and a not smoothed out book to movie translation.

If we have kids they're going to be shocked the first time they find out HP movies exist.

I don't mind the kids in teh first ones, they had to be rough, they were so young. It's the insanely trimmed story lines and focus on super goofy effects instead of the story. They went for so much broom flying, computer characters flailing around, and running from event to event and not establishing a mood. They are so trimmed, that if you don't read the books, they don't even quite make sense. My six year old complains that they are so cut compared to the books.

I haven't seen any movies made after the Goblet of Fire because of how drastically they cut the story down.

You quit too soon. They get better and better and by book seven they are amazing.

I'm starting to reconsider trusting everything you've ever said

We tried to go through all the movies again and made it through six before we gave up and declared it as not worth it.

And we've made it through all of the Bond movies.

The last two movies are REALLY good, a leap ahead of even #6.

I remember watching #8 in theatre on opening night. I didn't mind it then, but now watching all the movies just doesn't feel worth it.

I hope someday we get a BBC Harry Potter, though it would have to be WB partnered since they have the film rights.

JaredBusch

@flaxking said in What Are You Watching Now:

we've made it through all of the Bond movies.

Because Bond is awesome

Obsolesce

@flaxking said in What Are You Watching Now:

@tim_g said in What Are You Watching Now:

Books are always better with everything.

Books contain so many more details and a ton more "time". If you duplicated a book to a movie you'd have like a 12+ hour movie and spend a billion dollars. YOu just can't. So it's all pick and choose.

Sometimes there are exceptions to the rule. The Hunger Games books are pretty bad. The first movie was REALLY bad, but then I believe it was the 2nd and 3rd movies that were actually better than the books. But the 4th movie was meh.

Rule #1: There are exceptions to every rule