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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @CitrixNewbJD
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      @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

      The good news, is that somehow, I really have no idea how, the Xen servers reattached to the local storage overnight, and to the one virtual disk (Spindle2) and one DC is available. I'll give more details later.

      What's on the local storage? what is Spindle2?

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        CitrixNewbJD @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender @scottalanmiller Systems are up. New disk in, VD is degraded and being rebuilt.

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          travisdh1 @CitrixNewbJD
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          @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

          @Dashrender @scottalanmiller Systems are up. New disk in, VD is degraded and being rebuilt.

          Uhm, full backup created first?

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            CitrixNewbJD
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            Some VM OSes aren't coming up. Getting this on most (all?) of the VMs that had their OS on the downed SAN. 0_1482941303755_Screenshot 2016-12-28 10.08.16.png

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            • sealS
              seal @travisdh1
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              @travisdh1 said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

              @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

              @Dashrender @scottalanmiller Systems are up. New disk in, VD is degraded and being rebuilt.

              Uhm, full backup created first?

              Second that ^^

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                CitrixNewbJD @travisdh1
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                @travisdh1 @seal Full backup created with what? As I noted yesterday there is no backup solution in place as of yet, unless you're referring to something I'm not grokking.

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                • NerdyDadN
                  NerdyDad @CitrixNewbJD
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                  @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                  @travisdh1 @seal Full backup created with what? As I noted yesterday there is no backup solution in place as of yet, unless you're referring to something I'm not grokking.

                  XenServer is able to create backups of its VMs, but, from my experience, its not in the GUI. You'd have to go to the CLI. Here are a few helps from what I have found.

                  http://tecadmin.net/backup-running-virtual-machine-in-xenserver/#
                  https://nchrissos.wordpress.com/2013/09/05/free-backup-for-citrix-xenserver-live-virtual-machines/

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                  • sealS
                    seal @CitrixNewbJD
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                    @CitrixNewbJD Find a system (desktop or server) with some diskspace. Use native Windows backup and do system state if you have nothing currently. XenServer may have something built in. Awful Windows backups are better than none.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @CitrixNewbJD
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                      @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                      On the phone with Dell, and the logs indicate that the two drives went down within seconds of each other, which may indicate that one of the drives isn't truly dead. They're going to try to revive it. Fingers crossed.

                      It might, but it's RAID 5 so multiple drives failing close in time to each other is common.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @CitrixNewbJD
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                        @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                        @Dashrender @scottalanmiller Systems are up. New disk in, VD is degraded and being rebuilt.

                        You got VERY lucky. Did they tell you why the array went down if the drive didn't fail?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                          @travisdh1 said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                          @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                          @Dashrender @scottalanmiller Systems are up. New disk in, VD is degraded and being rebuilt.

                          Uhm, full backup created first?

                          This ^^^^

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @CitrixNewbJD
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                            @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                            @travisdh1 @seal Full backup created with what? As I noted yesterday there is no backup solution in place as of yet, unless you're referring to something I'm not grokking.

                            Take down some desktops, use them as backup devices. Go get AetherStore and make a storage device out of your desktops. Do something.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
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                              @NerdyDad said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                              @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                              @travisdh1 @seal Full backup created with what? As I noted yesterday there is no backup solution in place as of yet, unless you're referring to something I'm not grokking.

                              XenServer is able to create backups of its VMs, but, from my experience, its not in the GUI. You'd have to go to the CLI. Here are a few helps from what I have found.

                              http://tecadmin.net/backup-running-virtual-machine-in-xenserver/#
                              https://nchrissos.wordpress.com/2013/09/05/free-backup-for-citrix-xenserver-live-virtual-machines/

                              He needs a backup target 🙂

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Or skip the backups and remind the owner that "nothing here can fail." Why worry about backups if the boss doesn't?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Okay, lot of links coming. This is at the request of the OP, so don't think that I'm berating him. He requested the info so that he could show it upstream. 🙂

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/11324/scott-alan-miller-smb-system-architectural-patterns
                                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/10337/defining-high-availability/
                                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/8822/why-dual-controllers-is-not-a-risk-mitigation-strategy-alone
                                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/8821/risk-3-2-1-stock-inverted-pyramid-design/
                                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/8743/risk-single-server-versus-the-smallest-inverted-pyramid-design/
                                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/8090/how-does-local-storage-offer-high-availability/
                                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/6634/the-inverted-pyramid-of-doom-challenge/
                                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/6653/is-this-a-single-point-of-failure-or-spof
                                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/6190/redundancy-is-never-a-goal-reliability-is-a-goal-redundancy-is-a-tool/
                                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/5084/why-non-uniform-ure-distribution-may-make-parity-raid-riskier-than-thought
                                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/3010/understanding-dependency-chains
                                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/8757/why-is-raid-not-a-backup
                                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/121/raid-link-blast
                                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/9971/smb-system-architecture-link-blast

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                                      CitrixNewbJD @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller He's been talking to his most trusted employee, a developer. Apparently he doesn't even understand that that Xen and the SAN are two completely different things...

                                      I do plan on updating my LinkedIn profile and resume over the next few days.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @CitrixNewbJD
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                                        @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                                        @scottalanmiller He's been talking to his most trusted employee, a developer. Apparently he doesn't even understand that that Xen and the SAN are two completely different things...

                                        I do plan on updating my LinkedIn profile and resume over the next few days.

                                        And yet.... he's sure that this "thing" can't fail and demands to be in charge of IT.

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                                        • NerdyDadN
                                          NerdyDad @CitrixNewbJD
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                                          @CitrixNewbJD said in XenServer 6.2 servers down. I have no Xen skill. Most likely networking? Help!:

                                          @scottalanmiller He's been talking to his most trusted employee, a developer. Apparently he doesn't even understand that that Xen and the SAN are two completely different things...

                                          I do plan on updating my LinkedIn profile and resume over the next few days.

                                          Is this trusted employee also kinfolk?

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                                            CitrixNewbJD @NerdyDad
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                                            @NerdyDad Close. Friend of the family. He's also a really good guy, and probably a genius. He's on my side. Not necessarily a correlation to his genius, just sayin'.

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