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    Latest Snowden leak reveals the NSA intercepted and bugged Cisco routers

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    • david.wiese
      david.wiese last edited by

      interesting to see if this is true or not. Knowing that it's a snowden release i bet there is some validity to this. Cisco has stated that they have never cooperated with the government to weaken products.

      http://www.engadget.com/2014/05/16/nsa-bugged-cisco-routers/

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      • Bill Kindle
        Bill Kindle last edited by

        Of course they would say that, because it would really hurt them. They are the 800 lbs silverback gorilla of the networking world.

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        • scottalanmiller
          scottalanmiller last edited by

          Even asking them is silly. If they were forced to participate they are also forced to not disclose it.

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            ITcrackerjack last edited by

            This is basic spy stuff, right? Also, even if they did cooperate, they have to say they didn't.

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            • scottalanmiller
              scottalanmiller @ITcrackerjack last edited by

              @ITcrackerjack said:

              This is basic spy stuff, right? Also, even if they did cooperate, they have to say they didn't.

              Right. For all we know, everyone one if us has been contacted by the NSA. None of us are ever allowed to tell each other, though.

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              • david.wiese
                david.wiese @scottalanmiller last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @ITcrackerjack said:

                This is basic spy stuff, right? Also, even if they did cooperate, they have to say they didn't.

                Right. For all we know, everyone one if us has been contacted by the NSA. None of us are ever allowed to tell each other, though.

                very true, it is smart from a PR perspective to deny deny deny, however we all know that it happened and they have now been caught. I am interested to know if any other major providers are going to be outed for doing something similar.

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                • scottalanmiller
                  scottalanmiller @david.wiese last edited by

                  @david.wiese said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @ITcrackerjack said:

                  This is basic spy stuff, right? Also, even if they did cooperate, they have to say they didn't.

                  Right. For all we know, everyone one if us has been contacted by the NSA. None of us are ever allowed to tell each other, though.

                  very true, it is smart from a PR perspective to deny deny deny, however we all know that it happened and they have now been caught. I am interested to know if any other major providers are going to be outed for doing something similar.

                  It's not PR. It's the law. It is illegal for them to admit. So the truth isn't a factor. If it didn't happen, they would deny. If it did happen they would deny. Denial is the only legal option.

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                  • david.wiese
                    david.wiese @scottalanmiller last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller valid point. I forgot for a minute that this is the government. It's friday and i had a brain fart.

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                    • Bill Kindle
                      Bill Kindle @david.wiese last edited by

                      @david.wiese said:

                      @scottalanmiller valid point. I forgot for a minute that this is the government. It's friday and i had a brain fart.

                      And it smells really bad, like sulfur, rotten cauliflower and cooked spinach all at once 😉

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                      • alexntg
                        alexntg last edited by

                        So many businesses never patch their external-facing routers, so this would be a cakewalk in many cases.

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                        • scottalanmiller
                          scottalanmiller last edited by

                          It's amazing how few companies patch the external firewalls. Definitely shocking.

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                            A Former User last edited by

                            wait, they didn't tell me to keep quiet. did they forget? did I? oh no

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