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    Latest Snowden leak reveals the NSA intercepted and bugged Cisco routers

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    • david.wieseD
      david.wiese
      last edited by

      interesting to see if this is true or not. Knowing that it's a snowden release i bet there is some validity to this. Cisco has stated that they have never cooperated with the government to weaken products.

      http://www.engadget.com/2014/05/16/nsa-bugged-cisco-routers/

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      • Bill KindleB
        Bill Kindle
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        Of course they would say that, because it would really hurt them. They are the 800 lbs silverback gorilla of the networking world.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Even asking them is silly. If they were forced to participate they are also forced to not disclose it.

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            ITcrackerjack
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            This is basic spy stuff, right? Also, even if they did cooperate, they have to say they didn't.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @ITcrackerjack
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              @ITcrackerjack said:

              This is basic spy stuff, right? Also, even if they did cooperate, they have to say they didn't.

              Right. For all we know, everyone one if us has been contacted by the NSA. None of us are ever allowed to tell each other, though.

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              • david.wieseD
                david.wiese @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                @ITcrackerjack said:

                This is basic spy stuff, right? Also, even if they did cooperate, they have to say they didn't.

                Right. For all we know, everyone one if us has been contacted by the NSA. None of us are ever allowed to tell each other, though.

                very true, it is smart from a PR perspective to deny deny deny, however we all know that it happened and they have now been caught. I am interested to know if any other major providers are going to be outed for doing something similar.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @david.wiese
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                  @david.wiese said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @ITcrackerjack said:

                  This is basic spy stuff, right? Also, even if they did cooperate, they have to say they didn't.

                  Right. For all we know, everyone one if us has been contacted by the NSA. None of us are ever allowed to tell each other, though.

                  very true, it is smart from a PR perspective to deny deny deny, however we all know that it happened and they have now been caught. I am interested to know if any other major providers are going to be outed for doing something similar.

                  It's not PR. It's the law. It is illegal for them to admit. So the truth isn't a factor. If it didn't happen, they would deny. If it did happen they would deny. Denial is the only legal option.

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                  • david.wieseD
                    david.wiese @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller valid point. I forgot for a minute that this is the government. It's friday and i had a brain fart.

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                    • Bill KindleB
                      Bill Kindle @david.wiese
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                      @david.wiese said:

                      @scottalanmiller valid point. I forgot for a minute that this is the government. It's friday and i had a brain fart.

                      And it smells really bad, like sulfur, rotten cauliflower and cooked spinach all at once 😉

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                      • alexntgA
                        alexntg
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                        So many businesses never patch their external-facing routers, so this would be a cakewalk in many cases.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          It's amazing how few companies patch the external firewalls. Definitely shocking.

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                          • ?
                            A Former User
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                            wait, they didn't tell me to keep quiet. did they forget? did I? oh no

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