How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app
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Success I got it working
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Congrats. And thanks to @DustinB3403 for jumping in to help.
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its syncing back with my sensors! With that said I CAN"T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOU HELP! But I can thank you with beer @ Spiceworld if I can make it this year!!!!
I'm letting the database rebuild now about 1-2 months of data and I'm back in business.
I have no friggin clue why we couldn't see the data yesterday. Just for shits and giggles, I created another VM, used the windows 7 iso and booted, and did the repair option and I pointed to the back up, it still won't let me load it. I have no clue why.
But none the less, I am able to attach the VHD from the windows backup, and see my actual system image and pull my individual files from my database.
My app is a security system
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I thank Dustin big time he has helped me out tremendously!
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@krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
its syncing back with my sensors! With that said I CAN"T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOU HELP! But I can thank you with beer @ Spiceworld if I can make it this year!!!!
You missed him at MangoCon this week!
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@krisleslie ... awesome!
@DustinB3403 great job!!!!
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Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.
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@krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.
Bingo.
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@krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.
I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there
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@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.
I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there
I think if you do it the way we suggest now, it's OK.
Though it is not technically supported by Citrix if you ever want support.
TBH I am still on the fence what I would do if doing things over.
The one thing is that XS is pretty easy to recover from a boot failure, as you saw first hand. (IF you have the metadata backed up which I think you did not, correct?)
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@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.
I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there
Yeah, it's still a good method for deployment, but it is not for the faint of heart. It requires a bit of work that isn't solidly documented yet.
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@BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.
I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there
I think if you do it the way we suggest now, it's OK.
Though it is not technically supported by Citrix if you ever want support.
TBH I am still on the fence what I would do if doing things over.
The one thing is that XS is pretty easy to recover from a boot failure, as you saw first hand. (IF you have the metadata backed up which I think you did not, correct?)
Correct I did not. But I was still able to recover manually. Sucked but was doable.
and you're right - if you push the logs out and don't save them locally, you should be fine on USB. I'd be surprised if Citrix wouldn't support you because of that change.
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@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.
I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there
I think if you do it the way we suggest now, it's OK.
Though it is not technically supported by Citrix if you ever want support.
TBH I am still on the fence what I would do if doing things over.
The one thing is that XS is pretty easy to recover from a boot failure, as you saw first hand. (IF you have the metadata backed up which I think you did not, correct?)
Correct I did not. But I was still able to recover manually. Sucked but was doable.
and you're right - if you push the logs out and don't save them locally, you should be fine on USB. I'd be surprised if Citrix wouldn't support you because of that change.
Yeah, that would be an odd reason to not accept your money for support.
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@scottalanmiller said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.
I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there
I think if you do it the way we suggest now, it's OK.
Though it is not technically supported by Citrix if you ever want support.
TBH I am still on the fence what I would do if doing things over.
The one thing is that XS is pretty easy to recover from a boot failure, as you saw first hand. (IF you have the metadata backed up which I think you did not, correct?)
Correct I did not. But I was still able to recover manually. Sucked but was doable.
and you're right - if you push the logs out and don't save them locally, you should be fine on USB. I'd be surprised if Citrix wouldn't support you because of that change.
Yeah, that would be an odd reason to not accept your money for support.
Depends how stickler-ey they are.
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@scottalanmiller constantly says that vendors can't refuse support to you when you have third party HDDs and RAM installed in their servers.
So I don't really see this being that different. Is it possible they could refuse you? Sure, likely, doesn't seem likely.
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@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@scottalanmiller constantly says that vendors can't refuse support to you when you have third party HDDs and RAM installed in their servers.
So I don't really see this being that different. Is it possible they could refuse you? Sure, likely, doesn't seem likely.
Well, they can't REFUSE you, but they can easily say "yeah, this is all caused by you writing to USB" or "yeah, this is caused by those EDGE drives"
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@BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@scottalanmiller constantly says that vendors can't refuse support to you when you have third party HDDs and RAM installed in their servers.
So I don't really see this being that different. Is it possible they could refuse you? Sure, likely, doesn't seem likely.
Well, they can't REFUSE you, but they can easily say "yeah, this is all caused by you writing to USB" or "yeah, this is caused by those EDGE drives"
@scottalanmiller - comment?
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@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:
@scottalanmiller constantly says that vendors can't refuse support to you when you have third party HDDs and RAM installed in their servers.
So I don't really see this being that different. Is it possible they could refuse you? Sure, likely, doesn't seem likely.
Well, they can't REFUSE you, but they can easily say "yeah, this is all caused by you writing to USB" or "yeah, this is caused by those EDGE drives"
@scottalanmiller - comment?
DELL was actually willing to work through a lot more with me than I thought they would when I had the EDGE drives. But ultimately, they can only help to the drives because they aren't DELL drives.
@scottalanmiller will say ... if you buy a DELL, buy DELL stuff, I am betting
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I've worked with other vendors who will support their product if you have other hardware present, but they can't support that other hardware if it isn't theirs. So, if you have a hard drive that wasn't from them, they aren't going to support that hard drive. If it's plausible that the issue lies on the hard drive, they're going straight to that and pointing the finger at the manufacturer of the hard drive. Path of least resistance.
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Seems to me that the industry should want to support the USB adoption of hypervisor installs as a mandatory thing. I see it being easier to recover from and not waste precious hdd space.
