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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Maybe it was mounted as a local disk and written to then disconnected?

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

        Maybe it was mounted as a local disk and written to then disconnected?

        how do you mount the SR to a Windows machine? is it accessable as an NFS mount or SMB share?

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
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          No no, I may have said something confusing.

          The Windows backup VHD's are not on the SR for the XS VHD's.

          So to attach a VHD to the VM he'd have to create a VM and then attach that VHD to the VM from within Windows.

          He created a backup location to a NAS (for windows backup) which was also the same directory for his ISO's.

          So they are on an SR for ISO's (obviously not the same thing).

          Anyways, what we tried yesterday was from a VM to mount the VHD that he had from backup and it was blank (at least for what he was looking for).

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said

            So to attach a VHD to the VM he'd have to create a VM and then attach that VHD to the VM from within Windows.

            Why wouldn't you import the VHD through XC, then create a VM and attach the imported VHD?

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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              @BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

              @DustinB3403 said

              So to attach a VHD to the VM he'd have to create a VM and then attach that VHD to the VM from within Windows.

              Why wouldn't you import the VHD through XC, then create a VM and attach the imported VHD?

              Tried that as well, he doesn't have enough capacity on his VM SR.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 said

                Tried that as well, he doesn't have enough capacity on his VM SR.

                Can you shrink the VHD externally and then maybe it will fit.

                Sheesh, what a process!

                But, if there isn't enough room, how is the VM going to run at all?

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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                  @BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                  @DustinB3403 said

                  But, if there isn't enough room, how is the VM going to run at all?

                  Exactly...

                  Which is why if he has the data now (for whatever reason) he should just copy the data, and build a new VM, install the application, and import the data.

                  No point in dragging it out trying to get it to work. He's been down for days now from what I understand.

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                  • K
                    krisleslie
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                    Success I got it working

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                    • art_of_shredA
                      art_of_shred Banned
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                      Congrats. And thanks to @DustinB3403 for jumping in to help.

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                      • K
                        krisleslie
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                        its syncing back with my sensors! With that said I CAN"T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOU HELP! But I can thank you with beer @ Spiceworld if I can make it this year!!!!

                        I'm letting the database rebuild now about 1-2 months of data and I'm back in business.

                        I have no friggin clue why we couldn't see the data yesterday. Just for shits and giggles, I created another VM, used the windows 7 iso and booted, and did the repair option and I pointed to the back up, it still won't let me load it. I have no clue why.

                        But none the less, I am able to attach the VHD from the windows backup, and see my actual system image and pull my individual files from my database.

                        My app is a security system

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                        • K
                          krisleslie
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                          I thank Dustin big time he has helped me out tremendously!

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @krisleslie
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                            @krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                            its syncing back with my sensors! With that said I CAN"T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOU HELP! But I can thank you with beer @ Spiceworld if I can make it this year!!!!

                            You missed him at MangoCon this week!

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @krisleslie
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                              @krisleslie ... awesome!

                              @DustinB3403 great job!!!!

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                              • K
                                krisleslie
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                                Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @krisleslie
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                                  @krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                  Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.

                                  Bingo.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @krisleslie
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                                    @krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                    Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.

                                    I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                      @krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                      Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.

                                      I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there

                                      I think if you do it the way we suggest now, it's OK.

                                      Though it is not technically supported by Citrix if you ever want support.

                                      TBH I am still on the fence what I would do if doing things over.

                                      The one thing is that XS is pretty easy to recover from a boot failure, as you saw first hand. (IF you have the metadata backed up which I think you did not, correct?)

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                        @krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                        Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.

                                        I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there

                                        Yeah, it's still a good method for deployment, but it is not for the faint of heart. It requires a bit of work that isn't solidly documented yet.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @BRRABill
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                                          @BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                          @Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                          @krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                          Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.

                                          I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there

                                          I think if you do it the way we suggest now, it's OK.

                                          Though it is not technically supported by Citrix if you ever want support.

                                          TBH I am still on the fence what I would do if doing things over.

                                          The one thing is that XS is pretty easy to recover from a boot failure, as you saw first hand. (IF you have the metadata backed up which I think you did not, correct?)

                                          Correct I did not. But I was still able to recover manually. Sucked but was doable.

                                          and you're right - if you push the logs out and don't save them locally, you should be fine on USB. I'd be surprised if Citrix wouldn't support you because of that change.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                            @BRRABill said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                            @Dashrender said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                            @krisleslie said in How to recover system image from Windows 7 using the backup & restore app:

                                            Dustin's more genuis than I am lol! We ran into some serioush issues with my install. So I'm gonna come back and revisit the best practices cause I untimately want to use a USB to install XS to and then have XO as a VM so it can help out with backups.

                                            I think even @scottalanmiller has back peddled on install XS on USB. Might want to just weigh the options there

                                            I think if you do it the way we suggest now, it's OK.

                                            Though it is not technically supported by Citrix if you ever want support.

                                            TBH I am still on the fence what I would do if doing things over.

                                            The one thing is that XS is pretty easy to recover from a boot failure, as you saw first hand. (IF you have the metadata backed up which I think you did not, correct?)

                                            Correct I did not. But I was still able to recover manually. Sucked but was doable.

                                            and you're right - if you push the logs out and don't save them locally, you should be fine on USB. I'd be surprised if Citrix wouldn't support you because of that change.

                                            Yeah, that would be an odd reason to not accept your money for support.

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