What Are You Doing Right Now
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Still in the office. It's late here and a holiday but I'm not alone so I guess that I'm okay.
Long day of talking in circles to folks will do that to you!
At least you're not alone. @KOOLER or @Stuka around to keep you company?
@stuka left long ago. @kooler did too, actually, but he literally just walked back in a few minutes ago.
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He says that he doesn't want to be big brother, but it sounds exactly like he wants to be big brother.
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@scottalanmiller How would he even have access to his competitor's emails? Is he hosting them?
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@momurda said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller How would he even have access to his competitor's emails? Is he hosting them?
I'm pretty sure that he just means as they enter or leave his network. One hopes, anyway.
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@momurda They didn't give a whole lot of information about the environment that they are working with. If in Exchange/O365, this can be done in filtering TO:/From: fields as mail is coming and going.
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@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@momurda They didn't give a whole lot of information about the environment that they are working with. If in Exchange/O365, this can be done in filtering TO:/From: fields as mail is coming and going.
I agree, oddly non-specific about the tech. Really focused on the snooping.
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And like.. one guy maybe did this, but no reason to really think so or that he was so stupid as to use company email and if he did, why didn't they prove it already, but it's an excuse to go all big brother on the innocent people who stayed behind? Sounds like an empty excuse for a level of snooping that they want to do anyway.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
And like.. one guy maybe did this, but no reason to really think so or that he was so stupid as to use company email and if he did, why didn't they prove it already, but it's an excuse to go all big brother on the innocent people who stayed behind? Sounds like an empty excuse for a level of snooping that they want to do anyway.
This is a very typical response when something happens that someone in a position of authority doesn't like how something happened. It can and does happen at all sizes of business.
So in this case, the powers that be freaked out and say - OMG we must stop this, without considering that it's probably a very small real problem, and so easily thrawtable.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
This is a very typical response when something happens that someone in a position of authority doesn't like how something happened. It can and does happen at all sizes of business.
Even moreso, someone who probably isn't in a position of authority but wants to feel like they are. Did you notice the tone and wording, I could be wrong easily, but it really did not sound like anyone with authority said to do this, but that he saw an excuse to seize power on the email system and is trying to leverage it. I didn't see any "legal told me I have to" or "HR thought this would be a good idea". It was specifically that "he" wanted to prevent this happening.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
This is a very typical response when something happens that someone in a position of authority doesn't like how something happened. It can and does happen at all sizes of business.
Even moreso, someone who probably isn't in a position of authority but wants to feel like they are. Did you notice the tone and wording, I could be wrong easily, but it really did not sound like anyone with authority said to do this, but that he saw an excuse to seize power on the email system and is trying to leverage it. I didn't see any "legal told me I have to" or "HR thought this would be a good idea". It was specifically that "he" wanted to prevent this happening.
I have Never seen an SMB say that legal ever told them to do something.. oh yeah.. because they don't have a 'legal' department.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
This is a very typical response when something happens that someone in a position of authority doesn't like how something happened. It can and does happen at all sizes of business.
Even moreso, someone who probably isn't in a position of authority but wants to feel like they are. Did you notice the tone and wording, I could be wrong easily, but it really did not sound like anyone with authority said to do this, but that he saw an excuse to seize power on the email system and is trying to leverage it. I didn't see any "legal told me I have to" or "HR thought this would be a good idea". It was specifically that "he" wanted to prevent this happening.
I have Never seen an SMB say that legal ever told them to do something.. oh yeah.. because they don't have a 'legal' department.
Most any functional SMB has a lawyer, just not a full time one.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
This is a very typical response when something happens that someone in a position of authority doesn't like how something happened. It can and does happen at all sizes of business.
Even moreso, someone who probably isn't in a position of authority but wants to feel like they are. Did you notice the tone and wording, I could be wrong easily, but it really did not sound like anyone with authority said to do this, but that he saw an excuse to seize power on the email system and is trying to leverage it. I didn't see any "legal told me I have to" or "HR thought this would be a good idea". It was specifically that "he" wanted to prevent this happening.
I find this response perplexing. You, Scott, love to say that we shouldn't read more into people's post than what words they use, i.e. don't ask them followup questions that make them look dumb because, well frankly they asked a point blank question, they couldn't possibly mean something different.
So I'm surprised that you're attributing this guy to seizing power.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
This is a very typical response when something happens that someone in a position of authority doesn't like how something happened. It can and does happen at all sizes of business.
Even moreso, someone who probably isn't in a position of authority but wants to feel like they are. Did you notice the tone and wording, I could be wrong easily, but it really did not sound like anyone with authority said to do this, but that he saw an excuse to seize power on the email system and is trying to leverage it. I didn't see any "legal told me I have to" or "HR thought this would be a good idea". It was specifically that "he" wanted to prevent this happening.
I have Never seen an SMB say that legal ever told them to do something.. oh yeah.. because they don't have a 'legal' department.
Most any functional SMB has a lawyer, just not a full time one.
perhaps, but chances are they rarely ever call upon them, especially for something like this. Unless they were planning on suing the employee.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
This is a very typical response when something happens that someone in a position of authority doesn't like how something happened. It can and does happen at all sizes of business.
Even moreso, someone who probably isn't in a position of authority but wants to feel like they are. Did you notice the tone and wording, I could be wrong easily, but it really did not sound like anyone with authority said to do this, but that he saw an excuse to seize power on the email system and is trying to leverage it. I didn't see any "legal told me I have to" or "HR thought this would be a good idea". It was specifically that "he" wanted to prevent this happening.
I find this response perplexing. You, Scott, love to say that we shouldn't read more into people's post than what words they use, i.e. don't ask them followup questions that make them look dumb because, well frankly they asked a point blank question, they couldn't possibly mean something different.
So I'm surprised that you're attributing this guy to seizing power.
It's hard not to, this is such a standard IT reaction to wanting to have control. You almost never see managers doing this, but IT does it all of the time. You'd expect him to have made an excuse that he was forced to do it, not stating that he wanted to do it, if he was mandated to do so.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
This is a very typical response when something happens that someone in a position of authority doesn't like how something happened. It can and does happen at all sizes of business.
Even moreso, someone who probably isn't in a position of authority but wants to feel like they are. Did you notice the tone and wording, I could be wrong easily, but it really did not sound like anyone with authority said to do this, but that he saw an excuse to seize power on the email system and is trying to leverage it. I didn't see any "legal told me I have to" or "HR thought this would be a good idea". It was specifically that "he" wanted to prevent this happening.
I have Never seen an SMB say that legal ever told them to do something.. oh yeah.. because they don't have a 'legal' department.
Most any functional SMB has a lawyer, just not a full time one.
perhaps, but chances are they rarely ever call upon them, especially for something like this. Unless they were planning on suing the employee.
But that's the point, if the lawyer isn't worth calling, it's not an action that needs taken.
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I was thinking he just wants to check the logs for their own email history from that person that took a job with their competitor. I think. Like using Get-AgentLog or the Tracking Explorer.
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@momurda said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I was thinking he just wants to check the logs for their own email history from that person that took a job with their competitor. I think. Like using Get-AgentLog or the Tracking Explorer.
He said that he wanted to read it, though.
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O.o
I thought we were going to be under one today, but everything fizzled out. Good Luck & Godspeed!
Edit: Maybe Godspeed was a poor word choice, lol.
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Neighbors to the north of me are still cleaning up from last weekends tornados. If you have a 2 meter ham radio, you are more than welcome to listen to the storm chasers and weather spotters as they report conditions. I listened to one spot a tornado as it was forming, where it was forming, and where it was going. Because of that weather spotter, people ahead of it had time to respond and take cover. Unfortunately, not everybody got the news in time to take cover and there were some casualties.
Depending on the county that you live in will depend on what repeater that you want to listen to.
Ontario County ARES/RACES Net Sunday 8:00 PM 145.450 - (PL 110.9) W2ONT
Wayne County ARES Net Sunday 8:35 PM 146.685 - (PL 71.9) WA2EMO
