What Are You Doing Right Now
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I'm a little irritated at Apple right now. I had to factory reset my iPhone. I have 2FA configured for my iTunes/iCloud account. The second factor? Text message to my iPhone. So I can't login to my phone to get the text message that I need to login to my phone.
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@Kelly said
I'm a little irritated at Apple right now. I had to factory reset my iPhone. I have 2FA configured for my iTunes/iCloud account. The second factor? Text message to my iPhone. So I can't login to my phone to get the text message that I need to login to my phone.
Do you have any other iDevices configured to get texts? I have my iPad and Mac get messages as well, but I always forget about it until they start dinging at me.
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@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Kelly said
I'm a little irritated at Apple right now. I had to factory reset my iPhone. I have 2FA configured for my iTunes/iCloud account. The second factor? Text message to my iPhone. So I can't login to my phone to get the text message that I need to login to my phone.
Do you have any other iDevices configured to get texts? I have my iPad and Mac get messages as well, but I always forget about it until they start dinging at me.
Nope. I don't have an attached iPad, and I gave away my Mac to a new employee.
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@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Kelly said
I'm a little irritated at Apple right now. I had to factory reset my iPhone. I have 2FA configured for my iTunes/iCloud account. The second factor? Text message to my iPhone. So I can't login to my phone to get the text message that I need to login to my phone.
Do you have any other iDevices configured to get texts? I have my iPad and Mac get messages as well, but I always forget about it until they start dinging at me.
Can those other devices get a Text message if the iPhone is down? Aren't the Text messages, and I mean SMS messages, only received by the cellular antenna in the phone and then shared via messager to the other iDevices?
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@Dashrender said
Can those other devices get a Text message if the iPhone is down? Aren't the Text messages, and I mean SMS messages, only received by the cellular antenna in the phone and then shared via messager to the other iDevices?
Good point. Though I have no idea how Apple sends them.
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@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said
Can those other devices get a Text message if the iPhone is down? Aren't the Text messages, and I mean SMS messages, only received by the cellular antenna in the phone and then shared via messager to the other iDevices?
Good point. Though I have no idea how Apple sends them.
Apple merges all messaging together. it then knows if you are sending to someone who has an iDevice, and if yes, they send the message via apple messaging, and if you're messaging a windows phone or android phone, then it resorts to SMS.
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@Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Kelly said
I'm a little irritated at Apple right now. I had to factory reset my iPhone. I have 2FA configured for my iTunes/iCloud account. The second factor? Text message to my iPhone. So I can't login to my phone to get the text message that I need to login to my phone.
Do you have any other iDevices configured to get texts? I have my iPad and Mac get messages as well, but I always forget about it until they start dinging at me.
Can those other devices get a Text message if the iPhone is down? Aren't the Text messages, and I mean SMS messages, only received by the cellular antenna in the phone and then shared via messager to the other iDevices?
No, Apple's iMessage functionality means that any properly configured Apple device can be used to send SMS or make calls.
How does an iPad with no cellular antenna send a SMS message? are you going to tell me that Apple has a relay that's allowed into the phone system's network for this? While that definitely is possible, seems weird.
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@Dashrender I was making an assumption and speaking with authority on that assumption. I don't actually know if that is true.
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@Dashrender said
Apple merges all messaging together. it then knows if you are sending to someone who has an iDevice, and if yes, they send the message via apple messaging, and if you're messaging a windows phone or android phone, then it resorts to SMS.
I meant I don't know if they send their 2FA code via SMS or iMessage. Or even other. The "someone is logging in from XYZ" message I get is neither.
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@Dashrender said
How does an iPad with no cellular antenna send a SMS message? are you going to tell me that Apple has a relay that's allowed into the phone system's network for this? While that definitely is possible, seems weird.
For SMS you do indeed need your iPhone to be present on the same WiFi.
Or phone calls to the iPad or Mac.
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"Actually, Apple allows all users to send iMesages on Mac, iPad, iPhone and iPod touch, as long as you have Wi-Fi. It's pretty easy." https://www.iskysoft.com/apple-ipad/send-sms-from-ipad.html
I have no idea if the 2FA messages are true SMS or can be handled by iMessage.
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@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said
Apple merges all messaging together. it then knows if you are sending to someone who has an iDevice, and if yes, they send the message via apple messaging, and if you're messaging a windows phone or android phone, then it resorts to SMS.
I meant I don't know if they send their 2FA code via SMS or iMessage. Or even other. The "someone is logging in from XYZ" message I get is neither.
It has to be via SMS, they have to allow for non iPhone users to have access to 2FA via "texting" and that would mean they would have to use SMS for non iPhones.
I suppose it could be smart enough to know you're and iDevice user, but that would be bad form, what if someone stole your unlocked iPad? now they get the authentication code sent to them.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@BRRABill said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said
Apple merges all messaging together. it then knows if you are sending to someone who has an iDevice, and if yes, they send the message via apple messaging, and if you're messaging a windows phone or android phone, then it resorts to SMS.
I meant I don't know if they send their 2FA code via SMS or iMessage. Or even other. The "someone is logging in from XYZ" message I get is neither.
It has to be via SMS, they have to allow for non iPhone users to have access to 2FA via "texting" and that would mean they would have to use SMS for non iPhones.
I suppose it could be smart enough to know you're and iDevice user, but that would be bad form, what if someone stole your unlocked iPad? now they get the authentication code sent to them.
Is your problem that you're trying to restore your iPhone during initial setup? yeah, I'm guessing you're kinda screwed on that front. You might have to skip that part, then add it later, or skip it, get the phone working, then disable 2FA, then hard reset the phone again, than then choose to restore during the second setup.
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@Dashrender said
Is your problem that you're trying to restore your iPhone during initial setup? yeah, I'm guessing you're kinda screwed on that front. You might have to skip that part, then add it later, or skip it, get the phone working, then disable 2FA, then hard reset the phone again, than then choose to restore during the second setup.
It could be on the account. Apple has two types of two factor systems.
Aka, you can't set up a new phone without getting a code on another device.
Hopefully support with work with her. I looked online and it said it might take a while but they should.
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Looks like I'm slowly returning to the land of the living.
Anyway, IT pro's version of Russian roulette:
Post #2 is my favorite answer:
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In a chat with plusnet to find out why it will take over a month to transfer my Fibre service as it will leave me without internet for over a week!!!!
I was told before signing up it takes 10days - my current provider is switching my service off on the 3rd July so thought order now and it'll be done early. Order showing 5th for the phone switch over and 5-10days after that for Fibre!!!! -
@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
In a chat with plusnet to find out why it will take over a month to transfer my Fibre service as it will leave me without internet for over a week!!!!
I was told before signing up it takes 10days - my current provider is switching my service off on the 3rd July so thought order now and it'll be done early. Order showing 5th for the phone switch over and 5-10days after that for Fibre!!!!30 days? Really?
We had an outage after a storm in 2009. I was without access to the internet for eight weeks, and all this started exactly 8 weeks before the day of our wedding.
Great to be without internet access shortly before the event - HSDPA/UMTS was not an option back then. -
Then there is this...
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1653608-computer-hw-failure
