What Are You Doing Right Now
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I just found out that SW has been claiming to have been the "original orange" as a direct shot at NTG who uses nearly the same orange - even though NTG was orange before SW was even founded!
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For those wondering, NTG went Orange and Grey in 2003. SW was formed in 2006. NTG was blue and white (like Nicaragua) from 1999 to 2003.
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@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Cisco gear is all designed to be as hard as possible. Expensive and hard to use, never really find upsides to it.
Check out Yealink and Snom.
I got it really cheap so I figured I would try it. Just didn't realize how much of a pain it would actually be haha.
What's hard about ? Overall I didn't think it was that bad, the Yealink's anyway.
No simple web interface, generally. It's fine when you are deploying thousands of them, but for SMBs, it's unnecessarily convoluted.
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@scottalanmiller said:
No simple web interface, generally. It's fine when you are deploying thousands of them, but for SMBs, it's unnecessarily convoluted.
eh? what do you mean? you can web into the phone.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
No simple web interface, generally. It's fine when you are deploying thousands of them, but for SMBs, it's unnecessarily convoluted.
eh? what do you mean? you can web into the phone.
All good phones (meaning I think Cisco are junk) have web interfaces for management.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
No simple web interface, generally. It's fine when you are deploying thousands of them, but for SMBs, it's unnecessarily convoluted.
eh? what do you mean? you can web into the phone.
All good phones (meaning I think Cisco are junk) have web interfaces for management.
Did I miss that he was staying Cisco phones are hard to manage, and I was just thinking he was referring to Yeahlink and Snom?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
No simple web interface, generally. It's fine when you are deploying thousands of them, but for SMBs, it's unnecessarily convoluted.
eh? what do you mean? you can web into the phone.
All good phones (meaning I think Cisco are junk) have web interfaces for management.
Did I miss that he was staying Cisco phones are hard to manage, and I was just thinking he was referring to Yeahlink and Snom?
The discussion was about how hard his Cisco was to manage. So I pointed out how nice Yealink and Snom were. Better phones, lower price, easy to manage.
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@Dashrender said:
Did I miss that he was staying Cisco phones are hard to manage, and I was just thinking he was referring to Yeahlink and Snom?
Yes
@scottalanmiller said:
The discussion was about how hard his Cisco was to manage. So I pointed out how nice Yealink and Snom were. Better phones, lower price, easy to manage.
Re Phone GUI: Compared to Cisco, Snom may be nice. But compared to Yealink, Snom sucks balls.
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@JaredBusch said:
Re Phone GUI: Compared to Cisco, Snom may be nice. But compared to Yealink, Snom sucks balls.
Yealink has such a nice GUI... it also has a fairly competent auto-config system. It seemed like it would work well.
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Yealink is really just an all-around great option. Cheap, easy, lots of options and features.
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Just noticed that someone that I was having a conversation with on SW PMs deleted their account mid-conversation. That's a new one.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Yealink is really just an all-around great option. Cheap, easy, lots of options and features.
Exactly.
There are better quality phones than Yealink.
There are cheaper phones than Yealink.
There are phones with more features than Yealink.But Yealink is a good enough quality, for a low enough cost, with enough features, to be just right for a huge swath of people that need or want a desk phone.
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@coliver said:
Yealink has such a nice GUI... it also has a fairly competent auto-config system. It seemed like it would work well.
Phones do not have an auto config system. The PBX does. Do you mean the config files for the Yealink are full featured or something? Or are you talking about the config builder software they offer? I have found that clunky to use. but it does work.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Just noticed that someone that I was having a conversation with on SW PMs deleted their account mid-conversation. That's a new one.
Damn, what did you tell them? That the NSA was spying on this conversation and SW knows it and actively allows it? lol
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@JaredBusch said:
@coliver said:
Yealink has such a nice GUI... it also has a fairly competent auto-config system. It seemed like it would work well.
Phones do not have an auto config system. The PBX does. Do you mean the config files for the Yealink are full featured or something? Or are you talking about the config builder software they offer? I have found that clunky to use. but it does work.
I'll disagree with this. The PBX uses the features that the phone offers to allow auto config to happen. For example, you could build the auto config files completely manually, place them on a webserver of your choice, and have the entries in DHCP point to those files, when the phone boots up, it will grab the files and ta da.. work.. has nothing to do with the PBX, it's a feature of the phone.
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@Dashrender said:
I'll disagree with this. The PBX uses the features that the phone offers to allow auto config to happen. For example, you could build the auto config files completely manually, place them on a webserver of your choice, and have the entries in DHCP point to those files, when the phone boots up, it will grab the files and ta da.. work.. has nothing to do with the PBX, it's a feature of the phone.
That is a manual config process. An auto config process is strictly PBX based. Plug in MAC address, specify phone model, done. That is all dependent on the PBX.
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@JaredBusch said:
@Dashrender said:
I'll disagree with this. The PBX uses the features that the phone offers to allow auto config to happen. For example, you could build the auto config files completely manually, place them on a webserver of your choice, and have the entries in DHCP point to those files, when the phone boots up, it will grab the files and ta da.. work.. has nothing to do with the PBX, it's a feature of the phone.
That is a manual config process. An auto config process is strictly PBX based. Plug in MAC address, specify phone model, done. That is all dependent on the PBX.
It's manual because I have to edit a text file versus use a GUI?
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@scottalanmiller said:
About to get coffee number one.
I just managed to get coffee #1 because Scott the dick left his mug sitting on the machine halfway done (there are 2 part lattes, et al. Guess he really needed to take that personal call in the middle of getting coffee). Then, once he finally moved his cup, he left the bin full, so I got to dump it.
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@RojoLoco said:
@scottalanmiller said:
About to get coffee number one.
I just managed to get coffee #1 because Scott the dick left his mug sitting on the machine halfway done (there are 2 part lattes, et al. Guess he really needed to take that personal call in the middle of getting coffee). Then, once he finally moved his cup, he left the bin full, so I got to dump it.
You're nicer than I am.. that would have been poured down the drain while he was gone...
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@RojoLoco said:
@scottalanmiller said:
About to get coffee number one.
I just managed to get coffee #1 because Scott the dick left his mug sitting on the machine halfway done (there are 2 part lattes, et al. Guess he really needed to take that personal call in the middle of getting coffee). Then, once he finally moved his cup, he left the bin full, so I got to dump it.
Sorry dude. my bad.
