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    • gjacobseG
      gjacobse
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      Looking at a multi-site client PBX system for some issues regarding phones at one site dropping registration.

      timeline
      14 Aug 2015: Firewall replaced
      15-16Aug 2015: Issues with new FW update and corrected
      18Aug 2015 physical onsite done

      • Power cycled switch done by removing power
      • Checked phones IP status
      • Phones reachable via local and remote browser
      • Phones are pingable via Win box and PBX host
      • Phone: Mix mainly of Yealink, but a few Polycoms
      • Switch is a Juniper series PoE with two vLANs

      When the switch was power cycled, all the phones connected to the PBX. Phone use / access has been up and down since.

      Phones have been factory reset and configured. Phones will stay registered for (x) period of time at which point they will fail to register again. However, the switch was remotely cycled this morning and those phones are showing in the PBX as active ($ sip show peers).

      PBX IP tables have been cleared, phones reconfigured, tcpdump files taken. A phone that registers now, may lose that registration at some random (x) minutes from when it registered and rebooting the phone does not reconnect.

      We've had a number of people investigate this, but at this point we are no closer to resolving this then when I was on site last week.

      Some speculation that it is an issue with the Switch, new Firewall or the service provider (ComCast). However some phones work and some don't, and it does seem to be random.

      Tags:
      @scottalanmiller; @Minion-Queen; @Mike-Ralston; @JaredBusch;

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        What kind of VPN connects the two sites?

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        • gjacobseG
          gjacobse @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          What kind of VPN connects the two sites?

          The new Firewall is a Fortigate unit. We connect via the Fortigate client software.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            That's the first clue that something is wrong. Fortigate are very problematic and undocumented.

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            • gjacobseG
              gjacobse
              last edited by

              Sip Show Peers at: 08:00(ish)EDT

              
              2200                      (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2201/2201                 xxx.xx.xx.123		D   N          A  5062     OK (127 ms)
              2202/2202                 xxx.xx.xx.106		D   N          A  5062     OK (67 ms)
              2203/2203                 xxx.xx.xx.124		D   N          A  5062     OK (135 ms)
              2210/2210                 xxx.xx.xx.121		D   N          A  5062     OK (59 ms)
              2211/2211                 xxx.xx.xx.115		D   N          A  5062     OK (79 ms)
              2212/2212                 xxx.xx.xx.114		D   N          A  5062     OK (59 ms)
              2213/2213                 xxx.xx.xx.113		D   N          A  5062     OK (68 ms)
              2214/2214                 xxx.xx.xx.105		D   N          A  5062     OK (69 ms)
              2215/2215                 xxx.xx.xx.122		D   N          A  5062     OK (74 ms)
              2216/2216                 xxx.xx.xx.109		D   N          A  5062     OK (62 ms)
              2217/2217                 xxx.xx.xx.101		D   N          A  5062     OK (63 ms)
              2218/2218                 xxx.xx.xx.117		D   N          A  5062     OK (62 ms)
              2219/2219                 xxx.xx.xx.110		D   N          A  5062     OK (71 ms)
              2220/2220                 xxx.xx.xx.116		D   N          A  5062     OK (63 ms)
              2221/2221                 xxx.xx.xx.119		D   N          A  5062     OK (67 ms)
              2223/2223                 xxx.xx.xx.102		D   N          A  5060     OK (57 ms)
              2224                      (Unspecified		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2226/2226                 xxx.xx.xx.111		D   N          A  5062     OK (62 ms)
              2227/2227                 xxx.xx.xx.120		D   N          A  5062     OK (59 ms)
              2228/2228                 xxx.xx.xx.107		D   N          A  5062     OK (68 ms)
              2230/2230                 xxx.xx.xx.103		D   N          A  5062     OK (75 ms)
              2233/2233                 xxx.xx.xx.108		D   N          A  5062     OK (67 ms)
              2235/2235                 xxx.xx.xx.100		D   N          A  5060     OK (56 ms)
              2236                      (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2238/2238                 xxx.xx.xx.112		D   N          A  5062     OK (60 ms)
              2239/2239                 xxx.xx.xx.118		D   N          A  5062     OK (61 ms)
              2240/2240                 xxx.xx.xx.104		D   N          A  5060     OK (59 ms)
              9999/9999                 (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              

              Sip Show Peers now: 09:00EDT

              
              2200                      (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2201/2201                 (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2202/2202                 xxx.xx.xx.106		D   N          A  5062     OK (63 ms)
              2203/2203                 (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2210/2210                 (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2211/2211                 xxx.xx.xx.115		D   N          A  5062     OK (78 ms)
              2212/2212                 xxx.xx.xx.114		D   N          A  5062     OK (62 ms)
              2213/2213                 (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2214/2214                 (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2215/2215                 (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2216/2216                 xxx.xx.xx.109		D   N          A  5062     OK (67 ms)
              2217/2217                 (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2218/2218                 (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2219/2219                 xxx.xx.xx.110		D   N          A  5062     OK (73 ms)
              2220/2220                 (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2221/2221                 xxx.xx.xx.119		D   N          A  5062     OK (89 ms)
              2223/2223                 xxx.xx.xx.102		D   N          A  5060     OK (57 ms)
              2224                      (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2226/2226                 (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2227/2227                 (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2228/2228                 (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2230/2230                 xxx.xx.xx.103		D   N          A  5062     OK (67 ms)
              2233/2233                 (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2235/2235                 xxx.xx.xx.100		D   N          A  5060     OK (53 ms)
              2236                      (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2238/2238                 (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2239/2239                 (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              2240/2240                 xxx.xx.xx.104		D   N          A  5060     OK (57 ms)
              9999/9999                 (Unspecified)		D   N          A  0        UNKNOWN
              
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              • coliverC
                coliver
                last edited by coliver

                You said this was over a VPN? When they disconnect are you able to ping the phones from the PBX? How are the phones configured, do you reference the PBX by domain name or by IP address?

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  Is thew PBX on site or hosted? That was not clear.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said:

                    Is thew PBX on site or hosted? That was not clear.

                    PBX is not hosted by a third party, but it is hosted by another division of the same company. So it acts like hosted to the site with the registration problems. It is an "on premises" PBX across the country with the phones registering over the VPN.

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                    • gjacobseG
                      gjacobse @coliver
                      last edited by

                      @coliver said:

                      You said this was over a VPN? When they disconnect are you able to ping the phones from the PBX? How are the phones configured, do you reference the PBX by domain name or by IP address?

                      Phones are configured to use DNS name for the PBX server in the SIPserver. However both name and IP have been tried.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        According to the "hosting site", their network tooling says that there is packet loss over their site to site connection.

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                        • gjacobseG
                          gjacobse
                          last edited by

                          using the webGUI on one phone, just pushed a reboot.

                          Registration failed after restart.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            According to the "hosting site", their network tooling says that there is packet loss over their site to site connection.

                            So it seems to be network related then. So this isn't really a PBX or SIP registration problem something funky is going on over the wire.

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                            • gjacobseG
                              gjacobse
                              last edited by

                              Ping from PBX to phone:

                              ping xxx.xx.xx.116
                              PING xxx.xx.xx.116 (xxx.xx.xx.116) 56(84) bytes of data.
                              64 bytes from xxx.xx.xx.116: icmp_seq=1 ttl=60 time=51.8 ms
                              64 bytes from xxx.xx.xx.116: icmp_seq=2 ttl=60 time=52.2 ms
                              64 bytes from xxx.xx.xx.116: icmp_seq=3 ttl=60 time=53.7 ms
                              64 bytes from xxx.xx.xx.116: icmp_seq=4 ttl=60 time=51.2 ms
                              64 bytes from xxx.xx.xx.116: icmp_seq=5 ttl=60 time=51.4 ms
                              64 bytes from xxx.xx.xx.116: icmp_seq=6 ttl=60 time=56.3 ms
                              
                              
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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                According to the "hosting site", their network tooling says that there is packet loss over their site to site connection.

                                @coliver said:

                                So it seems to be network related then. So this isn't really a PBX or SIP registration problem something funky is going on over the wire.

                                I call this done. Not the problem of the PBX.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @gjacobse
                                  last edited by

                                  @g.jacobse said:

                                  Ping from PBX to phone:

                                  ping xxx.xx.xx.116
                                  PING xxx.xx.xx.116 (xxx.xx.xx.116) 56(84) bytes of data.
                                  64 bytes from xxx.xx.xx.116: icmp_seq=1 ttl=60 time=51.8 ms
                                  64 bytes from xxx.xx.xx.116: icmp_seq=2 ttl=60 time=52.2 ms
                                  64 bytes from xxx.xx.xx.116: icmp_seq=3 ttl=60 time=53.7 ms
                                  64 bytes from xxx.xx.xx.116: icmp_seq=4 ttl=60 time=51.2 ms
                                  64 bytes from xxx.xx.xx.116: icmp_seq=5 ttl=60 time=51.4 ms
                                  64 bytes from xxx.xx.xx.116: icmp_seq=6 ttl=60 time=56.3 ms
                                  
                                  

                                  Ok, it is unregistered but still passing packets? Can you run this for a longer period and see what the loss rate is? Something like 100 or 500 packets?

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                                  • gjacobseG
                                    gjacobse
                                    last edited by

                                    ---xxx.xx.xx.116 ping statistics ---
                                    152 packets transmitted, 152 received, 0% packet loss, time 151239ms
                                    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 50.673/53.947/109.152/7.745 ms
                                    
                                    
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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @gjacobse
                                      last edited by

                                      @g.jacobse said:

                                      ---xxx.xx.xx.116 ping statistics ---
                                      152 packets transmitted, 152 received, 0% packet loss, time 151239ms
                                      rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 50.673/53.947/109.152/7.745 ms
                                      
                                      

                                      What is your registration timeout set at?

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                                      • gjacobseG
                                        gjacobse
                                        last edited by

                                        UDP Keep-alive: 30
                                        Login Expire: 3600
                                        SIP Registration retry: 30

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @gjacobse
                                          last edited by

                                          @g.jacobse said:

                                          UDP Keep-alive: 30
                                          Login Expire: 3600
                                          SIP Registration retry: 30

                                          Is there a registrationattempts entry other then 0?

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                                          • gjacobseG
                                            gjacobse
                                            last edited by

                                            freepbxregistime.png

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