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    Comparison of VPN Security

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    • dafyreD
      dafyre
      last edited by

      Very good article. I saw it once before and couldn't find it again. Thanks for that!

      And as JaredBusch said - very much relevant.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        "Thankfully" VPNs are not a fast moving target. The basics have remained the same for a very long time.

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre
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          There's a new VPN-type thing that I've seen that seems a bit more like Pertino than anything else... it's called ZeroTier (http://www.zerotier.com).

          I am toying around with it to see what it is like. So far, it seems kinda cool. Works with Windows, Linux, and Mac. Android ports are forthcoming, I think.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Will have to check that out. Post a write up on it if you can. That would be great.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre
              last edited by

              Technical details for those interested... https://www.zerotier.com/tech_faq.shtml

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Nice, that has some amazing technology behind it. It's not like Pertino, Pertino is a cloud VPN (everything flows through the cloud components so that applications, management, monitoring, etc. can happen), ZeroTier instead uses a cloud controller just to set up peer to peer connections so the machines talk directly to each other.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Nice, that has some amazing technology behind it. It's not like Pertino, Pertino is a cloud VPN (everything flows through the cloud components so that applications, management, monitoring, etc. can happen), ZeroTier instead uses a cloud controller just to set up peer to peer connections so the machines talk directly to each other.

                  And it looks like you can completely host it yourself and the software is all free.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre
                    last edited by

                    I had it on my home server and my laptop, but I never really take my laptop anywhere these days... Installing it in VM now at the office to see how well it works remotely.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      Installing a controller some place like Digital Ocean might be the best for this type of product, it's completely outside of your normal network, no NATing issues to worry about when connecting to the controller, etc.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre
                        last edited by

                        I also like the fact that you have to manually approve devices joining your network... You still get some relative peace of mind that you know what is connected to your network.

                        Browsing files and remote desktop seem to work pretty good remotely as well... I like the way it works... So if we decide to have an ML Game night, everybody can load up this, and join my network, and then we can all play $game 8-)

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre
                          last edited by dafyre

                          I thought the controller stuff was hosted on their web site. In order to create and manage a ZT Network, you do have to create an account with them. (I'd already done so).

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @dafyre
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                            @dafyre said:

                            I thought the controller stuff was hosted on their web site. In order to create and manage a ZT Network, you do have to create an account with them. (I'd already done so).

                            That's how they make their money according to the FAQ - but you don't have to use their hosted controllers if you don't want - again, I read that in the FAQ.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said:

                              And it looks like you can completely host it yourself and the software is all free.

                              Yes, looks very interesting.

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre
                                last edited by

                                I'm reading the same FAQ, lol... Again.

                                I see it now. I dunno how I missed that the first time...but it seems to set up your own controller, you need to compile it yourself as well. But still that's a small price to pay to keep things under your control.... andI already have a C@C server... Hmm... lol.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @dafyre
                                  last edited by

                                  @dafyre said:

                                  I'm reading the same FAQ, lol... Again.

                                  I see it now. I dunno how I missed that the first time...but it seems to set up your own controller, you need to compile it yourself as well. But still that's a small price to pay to keep things under your control.... andI already have a C@C server... Hmm... lol.

                                  LOL - yeah me to... though I wonder if it would be able to handle it.. lol

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                    last edited by

                                    @dafyre said:

                                    I'm reading the same FAQ, lol... Again.

                                    I see it now. I dunno how I missed that the first time...but it seems to set up your own controller, you need to compile it yourself as well. But still that's a small price to pay to keep things under your control.... andI already have a C@C server... Hmm... lol.

                                    Just want you want in a VPN, not reliable.

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender Ha ha ha ha. Ain't but one way to find out. I think they do pretty good with the network bandwidth, as long as nobody cuts their only fiber coming in.

                                      But yea, disk IO still leaves a bit to be desired, lol.

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller I'll run it in a VM on my home network if I have to, lol. My cable connection has gone down... zero times (maybe one) in the last year for reasons that were not human error or power related... I gotta move that cable modem and wireless unit away from where my kid can get to it, lol.

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                                          matt
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                                          According to this article, some vpn services has been compromised and accused in customers’ data exchange with the government. Is it possible to provide the list of these vpn providers? It will be really useful to know them and subscribe for another vpn if it’s necessary. Nevertheless, all providers assure that they do not keep log and do not provide any info to a third party of course (eg. https://myipservices.com/blog/what-you-need-know-when-choosing-vpn-platform). So, how to choose a truly anonymous service and not be tricked?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @matt
                                            last edited by

                                            @matt said in Comparison of VPN Security:

                                            According to this article, some vpn services has been compromised and accused in customers’ data exchange with the government. Is it possible to provide the list of these vpn providers? It will be really useful to know them and subscribe for another vpn if it’s necessary. Nevertheless, all providers assure that they do not keep log and do not provide any info to a third party of course (eg. https://myipservices.com/blog/what-you-need-know-when-choosing-vpn-platform). So, how to choose a truly anonymous service and not be tricked?

                                            Large, well known VPN providers is generally key. That's true for many security concerns. And, of course, running your own is a major thing to do.

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