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    • art_of_shredA
      art_of_shred Banned
      last edited by

      We have a customer with 2 WAN connections (Verizon is the main and a local ISP is the failover) set up on an EdgeMax router. We've tested the failover, and it appears to function flawlessly. There's some configuration required to do it, but it's pretty simple.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        User VPN connections are made at night?

        People working from home, one would assume.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          User VPN connections are made at night?

          People working from home, one would assume.

          Ah okay, makes total sense. My brain lept to some automated process making VPN connections during the night to have them ready for the morning and I was confused if that could really be what it was 🙂

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          • PSX_DefectorP
            PSX_Defector @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said:

            My current situation is:
            Main location with SonicWall 2400 and internet pipe 10/10
            There are 4 site to site VPN tunnels to our remote locations. user VPN tunnels are created at night to this location as well, max 12, but normal would be 2.

            The remote locations each have a SonicWall T210 with internet 15/3.

            I would bring in two pipes to each of the remote locations, maybe grab a cheap one from the local ILEC. At the main location, bring in three large pipes. The main problem here is that there isn't much upload on those el-cheapo pipes. Then use the Peplink with their Speedfusion VPN bonding to get the tunnels to use the entire range of the pipes.

            Main site the sweet spot would probably be the 380, remote sites could use One's since they are not needing some of the other stuff except Speedfusion.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
              last edited by Dashrender

              I'm closing my three remote locations and consolidating them into a new single remote location.

              The cable modem connection will be 50/10 and the backup DSL will be 12/2.

              We are surviving with the 10/10 today, and have been for 8 years. Moving to 50/10 will allow me to loosen up for things like streaming radio, etc.

              I don't think we really need more than 10 for upload for normal day to day stuff.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                Currently the VPN tunnel supports DNS queries, AD authentication and the occasional file access, but the main work is done via an internet web app and that goes direct, not through our main branch.

                I plan to add VOIP phones to the new location, so this will put upwards of 8 phones worth of traffic on the VPN as well.

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                • PSX_DefectorP
                  PSX_Defector
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                  Well then, buy three pipes each site, get some 380s and watch some serious speed go through them.

                  Usage is gonna go up considerably versus what you saw before with the different sites. Remember all those goons are now gonna be concentrated to a single site. Where one user slurping YouTube wasn't a problem before, they are all now together and slurping down YouTube, making things horrible.

                  Two 50/10 pipes each site for VPN connections and mission critical data, schlep interwebs over to the low bandwidth pipe. So what if they can't stream audio and get their cat pictures as fast as home?

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
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                    I guess you're missing my current setup.

                    Of my 85 users, 78 of them are at my main location, all sharing a 10/10 pipe today, and have been for 7+ years.

                    The remote sites have all had 15/3 for those 7+ years.

                    At my main location, my main carrier can get me 100/15(20) but the backup carrier can't get me more than 12/2. I'm reaching out to other carriers, but I'm pretty sure they have no last mile access in my main location, so I'd be stuck with the two I'm currently looking at anyhow.

                    At the new locations, the primary carrier is the same, 100/15(20), but the backup can give me 100/100 over DSL (so they claim).

                    But I don't see the point in trying for 3 connections, when 2 will give me 5x at least more download than I have today.

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                    • PSX_DefectorP
                      PSX_Defector
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                      Sounds as though your users have gotten used to using the slower pipe.

                      Two might be just fine. Keep your options open by buying the ability to get a third pipe in. So if the users suddenly see all this bandwidth, they might start getting sassy and slurp down shit, plugging in their own equipment and doing crazy crap. You might also start needing that much more bandwidth, start using O365, Sharepoint, and all kinds of cloud storage. You might get another site fired up, and those few users at the remote site will need to share ~13Mbps upstream with each other. Your also need to determine if you need HA at some point, adding another DSL pipe would let in some bit of redundancy.

                      If you are going like for like, yes, with your plan now it should be fine. But since these are usually two to three year contracts, start future proofing yourself now. Look longterm, but don't go bleeding edge.

                      As for a 100Mbps DSL loop, totally possible. AT&T's U-Verse Gigapower is VDSL2+, but the loop has to be super short, so lots of it is new construction areas with fiber to the VRAD and 1000' loops to the locations. CenturyLink is offering a 100Mbps DSL pipe over a pair bonded VDSL implementation, but I don't believe they are offering symmetrical loops.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @PSX_Defector
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                        @PSX_Defector said:

                        CenturyLink is offering a 100Mbps DSL pipe over a pair bonded VDSL implementation, but I don't believe they are offering symmetrical loops.

                        They claim to be now.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          I'm starting a new thread to talk about internet connections themselves leaving this one for the firewall questions.

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