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    • thanksajdotcomT
      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @thanksajdotcom said:

      Also, don't be afraid to challenge Scott.

      Change that to be afraid NOT to challenge Scott. Although far less as an intern than a staffer, but the sentiment is important. We are an idea company, not a hierarchy. I get emergency technical veto power when pushes comes to shove, but if I'm arguing with you, that means I'm not in a position to put the brakes on - keep arguing. If you have a good point, it should be defensible.

      One of the things I always respected most about you.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Thanks.

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        • thanksajdotcomT
          thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          Thanks.

          Most people who are at your level expect you to take their word as gospel and feel that they cannot be wrong. You take the approach that should be taken, which is still open-minded. If you're right, which you are 98% of the time, you can defend yourself. On the off-chance you're wrong or there is an even better way to do something, you learn something and become even better. 🙂

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            BMarie
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            I'm not at the challenging stage yet. Sorry @scottalanmiller

            Trying to be ahead of the curve.

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            • thanksajdotcomT
              thanksajdotcom @BMarie
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              @BMarie said:

              I'm not at the challenging stage yet. Sorry @scottalanmiller

              Trying to be ahead of the curve.

              Being ahead of the curve means having well-supported challenges. But I understand what you mean.

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              • gjacobseG
                gjacobse @thanksajdotcom
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                I have learned that after twenty-five years in IT, and thirty-seven years of exposure to computers - I still have quite a bit to learn.

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                • ?
                  A Former User @thanksajdotcom
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                  @thanksajdotcom said:

                  For the record, I have won debates with two different engineers at NTG, both a current and former one. Both were regarding printers. I rest my case. 😛

                  To be fair, Printers/MFPs/Copiers aren't IT they are machines. They are about as much IT as a car that is connected to a computer for testing/monitoring is IT.

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                  • thanksajdotcomT
                    thanksajdotcom @A Former User
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                    @thecreativeone91 said:

                    @thanksajdotcom said:

                    For the record, I have won debates with two different engineers at NTG, both a current and former one. Both were regarding printers. I rest my case. 😛

                    To be fair, Printers/MFPs/Copiers aren't IT they are machines. They are about as much IT as a car that is connected to a computer for testing/monitoring is IT.

                    They aren't strictly IT, but the context of both conversations was IT related. One was with @scottalanmiller about an HP printer and their terms as it applied to consumer/business applications. The other was with @alexntg in regards to a solution for a customer.

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ
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                      Knowing how to research and troubleshoot is the bulk of IT. If you know how to research products and have a base knowledge of the technology available, your possible wisdom is infinite. Of course experience plays a major role and how you implement technologies.

                      You will feel more comfortable once you dive into that lab and gain experience in research, troubleshooting, and test deployments.

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                        thanksajdotcom @IRJ
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                        @IRJ said:

                        Knowing how to research and troubleshoot is the bulk of IT. If you know how to research products and have a base knowledge of the technology available, your possible wisdom is infinite. Of course experience plays a major role and how you implement technologies.

                        You will fill more comfortable once you dive into that lab and gain experience in research, troubleshooting, and test deployments.

                        This times a GOOGLEPLEX!

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                        • IRJI
                          IRJ @IRJ
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                          @IRJ said:

                          Knowing how to research and troubleshoot is the bulk of IT. If you know how to research products and have a base knowledge of the technology available, your possible wisdom is infinite. Of course experience plays a major role and how you implement technologies.

                          You will feel more comfortable once you dive into that lab and gain experience in research, troubleshooting, and test deployments.

                          The test deployment won't fully compare you for a live deployment. Every IT person will tell you, that things can go wrong (even if its out of your hands) during deployments . Stay cool and focused on the issue(s). Once you learn this, deployments will be second nature to you. Of course our goal is to never have anything go wrong during a deployment, but realistically it happens even if it isn't your fault.

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                          • Reid CooperR
                            Reid Cooper
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                            Seems like the nature of Interning is that you don't need to do very much prep for it.

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                            • ?
                              A Former User @Reid Cooper
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                              @Reid-Cooper said:

                              Seems like the nature of Interning is that you don't need to do very much prep for it.

                              That was my thought

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                                A Former User @A Former User
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                                @thecreativeone91 said:

                                @Reid-Cooper said:

                                Seems like the nature of Interning is that you don't need to do very much prep for it.

                                That was my thought

                                she's just excited. Just have an open mind, and be honest if you dont understand anything. probly a pretty good group of folks to intern with.

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                                • thanksajdotcomT
                                  thanksajdotcom @A Former User
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                                  @Hubtech said:

                                  @thecreativeone91 said:

                                  @Reid-Cooper said:

                                  Seems like the nature of Interning is that you don't need to do very much prep for it.

                                  That was my thought

                                  she's just excited. Just have an open mind, and be honest if you dont understand anything. probly a pretty good group of folks to intern with.

                                  They are.

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                                  • thanksajdotcomT
                                    thanksajdotcom
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                                    There is a reason I'm still so close to so many of my former co-workers. It's just a great group of people.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @thanksajdotcom said:

                                      Also, don't be afraid to challenge Scott.

                                      Change that to be afraid NOT to challenge Scott. Although far less as an intern than a staffer, but the sentiment is important. We are an idea company, not a hierarchy. I get emergency technical veto power when pushes comes to shove, but if I'm arguing with you, that means I'm not in a position to put the brakes on - keep arguing. If you have a good point, it should be defensible.

                                      This is one of the things I've definitely noticed and appreciated about you. While others might see you as beating a dead horse, if you're still talking it's because it's clear that either your points aren't understood, or the other person is making points that might be changing your position.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender thanks! I hope that is what I am doing. Sometimes I wonder if I'm beating a horse too 😉

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Dashrender thanks! I hope that is what I am doing. Sometimes I wonder if I'm beating a horse too 😉

                                          It's true.. sometimes the other wise just won't listen when they've clearly made a logical mistake, or more likely an emotional decision they don't want to fess up to.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            I assume that some of it too, is that there IS a dead horse being beaten. To anyone who pays attention, the same conversations, the same reasoning is repeated over and over again. But the person who is at the center of the discussion is either "new" to wherever it is taking place or just hasn't paid any attention and isn't aware of how often the same things are said over and over including, very often, the same tired points that they make. They could easily look up other threads to see how other people made those same points and they were discussed and they didn't come out as the valid points. But they don't.

                                            So to the people involved in the discussion directly, it's a new discussion (more or less, one can argue the semantics of ignorance) while to the bulk of the observers it is a dead horse being brought back for another beating.

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