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    • NetworkNerdN
      NetworkNerd @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Lost_Signal773 said:

      @NetworkNerd I'd like to point a few things. 1

      1. QoS over the internet means nothing. Your carrier is not going to respect your tags unless its on a P2P or MPLS circuit.

      No, but QoS before it hits the Internet does the majority of what most people need. It is normally your own WAN link that is the choke point, not the open Internet. If it was, nothing we expect to work would work.

      Yep - that is how I should have worded it. Sorry if that was not clear from my post.

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      • IT-ADMINI
        IT-ADMIN
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        Hi guys

        i was unclear in my previous posts, what i have to say is :
        when a sip client 192.168.1.10 want to talk with sip client 10.10.10.6 the following happen :
        since we are connected via openvpn tunnel no NAT happen actually, because i run wireshark in both machine (remote vpnclient and IP PBX) and i saw that the packets carry the real IP of the sip phone not the public ip (source ip : 10.10.10.6 --- destination ip : 192.168.1.10)
        what happened actually is routing not Nating, because there is a virtual tunnel between vpn client and vpn server and the vpn server route the packets to it destination (in this case 192.168.1.10 )
        so the RTP traffic should be established without any issue since there is not NAT in the tunnel

        i find the solution and now i have 2 site connected via openvpn and both location can call each other, the problem occur because i had wrong setting (in Ozeki server), before i set Discover public IP address using STUN server: stun.ekiga.net, this what created problem for me, i change it to my local IP PBX (Ozeki server) then everything work fine except sound quality, both side can hear each other but the sound was not totally clear (mixed with some noise),

        any suggestion to improve sound quality knowing that in the main office the download speed is 4 mbs and upload speed is 0.5 mbs , and in the branch office we have download speed is 10 mbs and upload speed is 2 mbs ,
        i think that my connection speed which decrease sound quality ????? or maybe something else ??? any suggestion ??

        thank you all for you answers

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          That is a very tiny network connection. With only .5MB you will almost certainly have issues.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            What codec are you using!

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            • IT-ADMINI
              IT-ADMIN
              last edited by

              hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Mr Scott, how are you doing

              first of all, the available audio codec that i have in my PBX system is:
              PCMA (8)
              PCMU (0)
              telephone-event (101)
              iLBC (98)
              G722 (9)
              GSM (3)
              SPEEX (97)
              SPEEX (100)
              SPEEX (108)
              L16 (103)
              L16 (11)
              L16 (10)
              G728 (15)
              G723 (4)
              G726-16 (104)
              G726-24 (105)
              G726-32 (106)
              G726-40 (107)

              i select only 3 : PCMA (8) + PCMU (0) + GSM(3)

              best regard

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              • IT-ADMINI
                IT-ADMIN
                last edited by

                i tried to select only GSM(3) since it is compatible with low bandwith but the call cannot be established, so i selected the additional 2 codec

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  Try g.723 and make it preferred so that that is tried first.

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                  • IT-ADMINI
                    IT-ADMIN
                    last edited by

                    unfortunatlly i don't have this option of preference,
                    which are the other codec that i have to select with this codec, can i select it only or other additional codec has to be selected alongside ???

                    thanks

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      You can enforce a codec by removing all others.

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                      • IT-ADMINI
                        IT-ADMIN
                        last edited by

                        aaah you mean i select only one codec (g.723)
                        ok i got it
                        thanks

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          Yes. That's not ideal but should work fine, at least for testing.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            I have had good luck with iLBC as well.

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                            • IT-ADMINI
                              IT-ADMIN
                              last edited by

                              great, is there any other thing that affect QOS ?? separating voice and data (VLANs) maybe a good idea (hhhhhh i know that you hate VLANs) i'm joking Mr scott

                              have a great day Sir

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                QoS on the WAN links is definitely a big deal.

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                                • IT-ADMINI
                                  IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller

                                  but i have no control over the wan traffic, after the packets come out from the wan interface i can't control it !!!

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                    last edited by

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    @scottalanmiller

                                    but i have no control over the wan traffic, after the packets come out from the wan interface i can't control it !!!

                                    But you control them before they go out and that is 99% of the battle.

                                    You can't control bullets after they leave a barrel but the order that you send them out pretty much guarantees the order in which they arrive.

                                    The traffic that you have to worry about is your own and you control that.

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                                    • IT-ADMINI
                                      IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller

                                      Yeah Sir you are right, i think that my firewall pfSense can do that because by way of it i can make queues, traffic priority, QOS, by way of these tools i think i can ensure that real time traffic have the highest priority than other type of traffic,

                                      see you Mr Scott,,,,,,thank you

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                        last edited by

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        @scottalanmiller

                                        Yeah Sir you are right, i think that my firewall pfSense can do that because by way of it i can make queues, traffic priority, QOS, by way of these tools i think i can ensure that real time traffic have the highest priority than other type of traffic,

                                        see you Mr Scott,,,,,,thank you

                                        Yes, pfSense can do that. @mike-ralston installed pfSense in the NTG Labs just yesterday too.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch
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                                          @it-admin I've used pfSense at home for a long time and never had any problems with it. I recently switched to an Ubiquiti EdgeMax Lite at home and that runs on aversion of Vyatta

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            Vyatta is pretty impressive.

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