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    • garak0410G
      garak0410
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      There are rumors that the phone preview will be tomorrow...I'll still wait and see if it strips some of the functionality I need...plus, I wonder if my ICON needs Denim first, which is slated for this month too...

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @garak0410
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        @garak0410 said:

        There are rumors that the phone preview will be tomorrow...I'll still wait and see if it strips some of the functionality I need...plus, I wonder if my ICON needs Denim first, which is slated for this month too...

        I can't even find an ICON or the 9XX non Verizon version used. What functions do you use so thoroughly to be concerned about their loss?

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        • garak0410G
          garak0410 @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said:

          @garak0410 said:

          There are rumors that the phone preview will be tomorrow...I'll still wait and see if it strips some of the functionality I need...plus, I wonder if my ICON needs Denim first, which is slated for this month too...

          I can't even find an ICON or the 9XX non Verizon version used. What functions do you use so thoroughly to be concerned about their loss?

          Microsoft Store still has some new ICON's...this phone still rocks for me...though was tempted to go iPhone6+ when I was upgrading people here back last fall.

          I really use the ROOM hubs...my wife and much of her family and my mom and dad all have Windows Phones and we really use the Family Room options...everyone loves them...makes it easier for them to share events, calendars, group texts and more.

          I just feel like any "hub" option is going by the wayside...too bad as I actually liked them...

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          • KellyK
            Kelly @garak0410
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            @garak0410 said:

            There are rumors that the phone preview will be tomorrow...I'll still wait and see if it strips some of the functionality I need...plus, I wonder if my ICON needs Denim first, which is slated for this month too...

            I think Gabe Aul killed those rumors today: http://www.windowscentral.com/about-those-rumors-february-4-release-windows-10-preview-phones.

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            • nadnerBN
              nadnerB @Minion Queen
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              @Minion-Queen said:

              When I tried the windows phone last (its been at least a year) it crashed constantly. Email was horrible on it had to restart the darn thing at least once a day.

              My IPhone just works, I do have a couple app issues (mostly facebook) but the phone, email, texting etc. just work without having to restart. I have to restart my phone when I get a major update (not the little ones) and that is it.

              Sounds like you got a dud. definitely worth updating it though!

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              • nadnerBN
                nadnerB @garak0410
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                @garak0410 said:

                I've had some issues with the latest Dev. Preview build with Wi-Fi dropping out and random lockups but on a whole, Windows Phone 8x is pretty solid. I cannot imagine returning to Android because every Android phone I owned, it would eventually just become a phone that locked up over and over and over. When web browsing, phone would just shut down and turn off. That happened with all 3 of my Android phones over time.

                Mine's been great on the dev preview releases. Most issues that I've had is the testing that I've been doing with UC Browser... it's crashed more times in three days than Internet Explorer in 18 months!

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                • nadnerBN
                  nadnerB @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Maybe I need to fire up my Lumia and check this out.

                  Dooooo iiiitttt!

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                  • nadnerBN
                    nadnerB @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said:

                    @garak0410 said:

                    I've had some issues with the latest Dev. Preview build with Wi-Fi dropping out and random lockups but on a whole, Windows Phone 8x is pretty solid. I cannot imagine returning to Android because every Android phone I owned, it would eventually just become a phone that locked up over and over and over. When web browsing, phone would just shut down and turn off. That happened with all 3 of my Android phones over time.

                    Yeah I found this to be the case on my Android phones as well. I swapped over to my 620 and am formatting the S4 because it was having all kinds of issues. In light of another thread here, I wonder how much of the AT&T crapware might be to blame?

                    After the rebuild on the S4, and not installing Touchdown to connect to my work Exchange account, I've noticed that battery life is MUCH better and so far the phone hasn't had nearly the same issues - but I don't really use it much either. I'm considering adding another phone number to my account so I can have both phones active at the same time to play with them. While not super cheap, $20 or less isn't to bad for testing and makes easy use of the wifi hotspot if I needed to.

                    One of my relatives has an S4 and has returned it 3 times for hardware faults BUT another of my relatives (as far as I know) has had zero issues.
                    Carrier crapware will be the undoing of Android.

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @nadnerB
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                      @nadnerB said:

                      Carrier crapware will be the undoing of Android.

                      And vendor bloat too. I enjoy my nexus5 for it's lack there of.

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                      • nadnerBN
                        nadnerB
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                        I'm really hoping that the tradition of decent hardware at a decent price continues. No one else is doing that.
                        Here in AU, I'd have to spend at least $400 to get a decent Android phone and the least expensive iPhone that I can get is the 5c that is still up around $500... unless I get a refurb.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Same prices here.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            I don't see prices on Flagship phones going down any time soon. They still fly off the shelves at those prices, so why would they change?

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @MattSpeller
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                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @nadnerB said:

                              Carrier crapware will be the undoing of Android.

                              And vendor bloat too. I enjoy my nexus5 for it's lack there of.

                              I'm not sure I buy that - HTC or Samsungs add ons, I really doubt that would release a product where their add-ons hurt their product... but the carriers, that's another story... but who knows.. I could be wrong.

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                I'm not sure I buy that - HTC or Samsungs add ons, I really doubt that would release a product where their add-ons hurt their product... but the carriers, that's another story... but who knows.. I could be wrong.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  That search proves nothing - it does not separate out the bloatware from the Vendor (in this case Samsung) vs that from the carrier.

                                  A normal user would still probably blame Samsung for an AT&T specific app just because it's a Samsung device. So they wouldn't search remove AT&T bloatware, they look at the phone and search for Samsung instead.

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender Fair point, some is no doubt carrier driven and I accept that most users would have difficulty telling the difference. I still don't think that makes your point though. They may not intend all their add ons to hurt their product - probably quite the reverse; it still happens however. Imagine how much faster a Galaxy S5 would be running vanilla as an example.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @MattSpeller
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                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @Dashrender Fair point, some is no doubt carrier driven and I accept that most users would have difficulty telling the difference. I still don't think that makes your point though. They may not intend all their add ons to hurt their product - probably quite the reverse; it still happens however. Imagine how much faster a Galaxy S5 would be running vanilla as an example.

                                      I think its gotten to the point where the speed of devices has no baring on the usability. Earlier in the android ecosystem this made sense where running ASOP was necessary to get the best performance out of the device, because otherwise it was basically unusable, now though I'm not sure it is that much of an issue.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @coliver
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                                        @coliver said:

                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        @Dashrender Fair point, some is no doubt carrier driven and I accept that most users would have difficulty telling the difference. I still don't think that makes your point though. They may not intend all their add ons to hurt their product - probably quite the reverse; it still happens however. Imagine how much faster a Galaxy S5 would be running vanilla as an example.

                                        I think its gotten to the point where the speed of devices has no baring on the usability. Earlier in the android ecosystem this made sense where running ASOP was necessary to get the best performance out of the device, because otherwise it was basically unusable, now though I'm not sure it is that much of an issue.

                                        I agree with this.

                                        But the @MattSpeller question - sometimes the new interface is better than the default one that comes with Android - definitely not always, but sometimes.

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                                        • MattSpellerM
                                          MattSpeller @coliver
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                                          @coliver said:

                                          I think its gotten to the point where the speed of devices has no baring on the usability.

                                          I don't think you really mean that, imagine saying that about the Motorola Razor!

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                                          • nadnerBN
                                            nadnerB
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                                            YYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                             
                                            Microsoft: Even cheapo Lumias to get slimmed down Windows 10: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/09/windows_10_4_cheap_phones/
                                            Microsoft is working to get Windows 10 working on devices with just 512MB RAM, including the Lumia 520.
                                             
                                            Things are looking up for my 620

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