Solved Office 365 Suite - User Licensing T&C
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@DustinB3403 said in Office 365 Suite - User Licensing T&C:
That's exactly what I said, to which I was meet with "MS has some licensing option where you can have account, with multiple seats"
If they want this type of licensing - they need to buy Volume Licensing or OEM or FBP (Full Box Product). These licenses are tied to the hardware.
Reminder OEM and FBP box expire when the PC expires, non transferable to another device. -
@dbeato said in Office 365 Suite - User Licensing T&C:
Look at this
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/deployoffice/overview-of-shared-computer-activation-for-office-365-proplusSure this enables you to 'deploy' the software generally without having to tie the install to a specific user. In fact these types of installs from my past readings don't count against the users 5 installs. It's more of an honor system for these devices - but, when the software is run, it will prompt for their O365 logon to verify the right to use it.
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@dbeato said in Office 365 Suite - User Licensing T&C:
Look at this
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/deployoffice/overview-of-shared-computer-activation-for-office-365-proplusYeah that's just the deployment aspect, each user still has to activate/authenticate the software with an O365 subscription.
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I'm pretty certain I know the answer, which is hell no MS isn't allowing multiple people to use a single license (they'd be insane too).
I'd still love to see something regarding this from MS on a ToS etc. . .
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@DustinB3403 said in Office 365 Suite - User Licensing T&C:
I'm pretty certain I know the answer, which is hell no MS isn't allowing multiple people to use a single license (they'd be insane too).
I'd still love to see something regarding this from MS on a ToS etc. . .
It's as simple as their licensing. The license is by user. They don't need anything more in the T&C. You add a person, you need a license.
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They have a per user price. Attempting to have more users, without paying, is cut and dry. You can see why they don't write it up anywhere, it's unnecessary.
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@DustinB3403 said in Office 365 Suite - User Licensing T&C:
I'm pretty certain I know the answer, which is hell no MS isn't allowing multiple people to use a single license (they'd be insane too).
Not only would MS be insane to allow that, but so would you unless you dont care about accountability at all in your organization.
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@JaredBusch said in Office 365 Suite - User Licensing T&C:
But the answer is O365 licensing is per user. Users get to use it on up to X devices.
If you have 1 device shared by 3 people, you need 3 licensees.
You can mark this as solved @DustinB3403
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@scottalanmiller and @IRJ I know, but @scottalanmiller I'm dealing with the previously discussed issue who would argue that the sun isn't actually hot at all.
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And having something as stupid as this literally written down (even in plain English "each human needs their own account") would be the hammer meets nail type of thing.
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@DustinB3403 said in Office 365 Suite - User Licensing T&C:
And having something as stupid as this literally written down (even in plain English "each human needs their own account") would be the hammer meets nail type of thing.
It is written down in the pricing.
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@DustinB3403 said in Office 365 Suite - User Licensing T&C:
@scottalanmiller and @IRJ I know, but @scottalanmiller I'm dealing with the previously discussed issue who would argue that the sun isn't actually hot at all.
Yes, but now that you have it in black and white, there is no way to clarify further. Nothing written down again will make any difference once he is ignoring what is already written down.
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It's so blatantly stealing to have users not paying for "per user" products, there is nothing to be done after that point.
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@DustinB3403 said in Office 365 Suite - User Licensing T&C:
each user still has to activate/authent
Correct
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Again - if he doesn't want to pay per user - he can pay per device with VL/OEM/FPP licensing, but then it's fully on that device and that device only.
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@Dashrender said in Office 365 Suite - User Licensing T&C:
Again - if he doesn't want to pay per user - he can pay per device with VL/OEM/FPP licensing, but then it's fully on that device and that device only.
That can't possibly be accurate or cost effective. You'd potentially have to pay like with RDS cals.
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@DustinB3403 said in Office 365 Suite - User Licensing T&C:
That can't possibly be accurate or cost effective. You'd potentially have to pay like with RDS cals.
It's an insanely expensive product. That your company, like every other, committed to using O365 without even casually investigating the cost of it, shows exactly why you would totally expect it to cost a fortune - because no one cares.
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@DustinB3403 said in Office 365 Suite - User Licensing T&C:
@Dashrender said in Office 365 Suite - User Licensing T&C:
Again - if he doesn't want to pay per user - he can pay per device with VL/OEM/FPP licensing, but then it's fully on that device and that device only.
That can't possibly be accurate or cost effective. You'd potentially have to pay like with RDS cals.
Can't be cost effective? what does that even mean?
Just some math for no particular reason:
ProPlus costs $799 (with SA) the last time I looked it up on VL, Assuming you use that over 3 years, that's $22.19/m for unlimited users on that device. SA renewal is like $200 every 3 years, so we have to go out to 6 years and we see that it costs $13.88/m, it's not until the second renewal that VL ends up saving you money over O365, and you don't get the benefit of 5 full sized devices of Office per user, or OD4B, etc.
No SA was like $599, assuming you use that license for 5 years before upgrading to the new version, that's $10/m for unlimited users on that device.
Office 365 with local installed office $20/m/user (Office by itself is like $12/m/user)
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@DustinB3403 said in Office 365 Suite - User Licensing T&C:
That's exactly what I said, to which I was meet with "MS has some licensing option where you can have account, with multiple seats"
And this is where I am now. LOL. I really just looking to see if anyone truly knows where the license is.No, they don't have this for O365. They are confused thinking it means something it does not.
A USER license is exactly that. A license for a single user to use, on up to N devices.
However, O365 software has a "shared" install option, that is designed for multiple, already licensed, users to use on a single device. As such, each user will need to log on as themselves, and each user will need to be licensed.
