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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @nadnerB
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      @nadnerB said:

      If you decide on the NAS, make sure the drives are easily accessible so that you can pull them out for transportation.

      Cannot transport a NAS. There is no possibility of moving a NAS around, it's a stationary target only.

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      • gjacobseG
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        Poking at Tape drives,.. wow.. I had not looked at them previously.. Not in a long time anyway. some of them are going for $1200 or more for a 1TB drive... and Tapes going for $25 each..

        Tapes are cheap,.. but if the drive loses alignment that could be a serious issue.

        To use SSD aren't going to be much cheaper.. and with limited and unreliable data connection, to try to dump a TB of data could be fun...

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        • gjacobseG
          gjacobse
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          What is your expected time duration for each stop? Day, week, month....

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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            @g.jacobse said:

            What is your expected time duration for each stop? Day, week, month....

            1-3 months. 2-2.5 months being likely average, but that will take time to determine. We have two 1.5 month stops lined up at the moment.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              We are going to have a small scale, month long run through in San Francisco before being isolated in Europe.

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              • gjacobseG
                gjacobse
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                Sounds like you have to work cut out... That is a lot of tech to try to stage before you head off.

                If you know where you are staying, you could plan care packages with the supplies you need a head of time. Building the NAS up could be done over the course of the trip, With the biggest expense being the base unit.. Remote access would be nice to have after setup so that you can reach in and check on things.

                Would you be able to purchase hardware while in Europe as to not ship from the US? How would that even work...

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  NAS has to be in the US. There is no possibility of storage devices larger than an external hard drive going to Europe. None.

                  All talk of storage devices like NAS, servers or cloud providers are on the US side. Only small scale devices like individual drives or possibly tapes at the extreme can be considered on the European side. Assume everything has to fit into a backpack along with all other gear.

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                  • gjacobseG
                    gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    NAS has to be in the US. There is no possibility of storage devices larger than an external hard drive going to Europe. None.

                    All talk of storage devices like NAS, servers or cloud providers are on the US side. Only small scale devices like individual drives or possibly tapes at the extreme can be considered on the European side. Assume everything has to fit into a backpack along with all other gear.

                    agreed - And very understandable. NAS or other type of main storage would need to be US based.. But you also don't want to carry all the drives to off load the camera with you either as it adds to much weight, space and well.. insurance.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Services like DropBox don't even offer a service big enough, not even at $750/year (where they top out) does it provide what is needed.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        I wonder if a huge ownCloud system would make sense.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
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                          @scottalanmiller does not even have to be huge. It at a minimum would only need to be big enough to handle the uploads.

                          Once data is uploaded, it could be offloaded elsewhere is that was more economical.

                          But, an ownCloud system would be my suggestion because you will not have artificial limits set on sizes by a third party.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            ownCloud might be the answer on a SAM-SD. That way I can easily control the storage pools, use low cost where it makes sense and the only thing that it needs to do is deal with the sync process from ownCloud copying the files.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Part of the answer might be that I need a new laptop. I absolutely love my current laptop, an HP Folio 13 running Windows 8.1 Pro. It is fast, small, light and has been an absolute workhorse for me since before we went to Europe in 2012. It will be three years old, though, by the time that we leave for this next trip. Three years is not old and to me it still seems absolutely new and wonderful, but the reality is is that it might be under powered for the tasks that we will be needing it to be doing.

                              There is some hope that I might be getting a top of the line MacBook Pro and if so, that will be coming with me instead of the Folio 13. That will be a lot more power and, more importantly, a lot more internal drive space but even a terabyte of SSD will only get me so far given the use case here. But it will help.

                              Also, we will have Dominica's new Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro which will help, but she will be using that mostly so that only helps so much too.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                A single, external USB drive of ~6TB might be enough to handle the day to day saving and editing. I just hate transporting a spindle drive around.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  4TB External Drives are already pretty cheap.

                                  http://www.walmart.com/ip/WD-My-Book-4TB-USB-3.0-External-Hard-Drive/29016524

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Even 5TB is really cheap. Although I'd feel more comfortable with a WD drive than a Toshiba.
                                    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-5TB-Canvio-Desktop-External-Hard-Drive/38082759

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                                    • Reid CooperR
                                      Reid Cooper
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                                      I think that most anyone would. WD has the better name.

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                                      • Reid CooperR
                                        Reid Cooper
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                                        Really, at those prices, buying two, keeping a backup and shipping a drive back is probably so much cheaper and simpler than any other option. You probably just need to suck it up and do that. The simplest solution is normally the best.

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                                        • Reid CooperR
                                          Reid Cooper
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                                          Plus the individual external drive approach means that you can invest in storage a little bit at a time rather than a single investment all at once. You can see how your storage usage is going before you spend lots of extra money.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            That makes good sense. I should probably use a SAM-SD for the large scale storage. That is actually more cost effective than any store-bought NAS unit and more flexible and we are always looking for real world SAM-SD implementations for reference examples. So that gets a double hit for value.

                                            And shipping hard drives is quick and easy and ultimately practical. I can copy files when possible and ship drives when I can't. I can always buy more drives in Europe if I have to, they are just as available there as they are here.

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