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    EOS...The Entrepreneurial Operating System for Small Businesses, anyone heard/use it??

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @jt1001001
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      @jt1001001 said in EOS...The Entrepreneurial Operating System for Small Businesses, anyone heard/use it??:

      Any one else ever seen this or had it implemented at your company?

      WTF is this? Looks like a scam, like a seminar to sell you a time share.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in EOS...The Entrepreneurial Operating System for Small Businesses, anyone heard/use it??:

        @jt1001001 said in EOS...The Entrepreneurial Operating System for Small Businesses, anyone heard/use it??:

        Any one else ever seen this or had it implemented at your company?

        WTF is this? Looks like a scam, like a seminar to sell you a time share.

        No different than 6 Sigma

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch said in EOS...The Entrepreneurial Operating System for Small Businesses, anyone heard/use it??:

          @scottalanmiller said in EOS...The Entrepreneurial Operating System for Small Businesses, anyone heard/use it??:

          @jt1001001 said in EOS...The Entrepreneurial Operating System for Small Businesses, anyone heard/use it??:

          Any one else ever seen this or had it implemented at your company?

          WTF is this? Looks like a scam, like a seminar to sell you a time share.

          No different than 6 Sigma

          6 Sigma was a process first. A manufacturing one, but a real one. There was a time, in the 1980s, when 6Σ was a real thing. Then scammers started making management stuff out of it and trying to pull a fast one. But at least it was rooted in something real, just really long ago.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
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            I did say this looks like a scan in my post as well. The fact that 6 Sigma was included is also incredibly accurate.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in EOS...The Entrepreneurial Operating System for Small Businesses, anyone heard/use it??:

              I did say this looks like a scan in my post as well. The fact that 6 Sigma was included is also incredibly accurate.

              6Σ is a full on scam in anything business or IT related. If you know anything about 6Σ, you know it's ass backwards in IT and doesn't even make sense. That guarantees that EOS isn't even hiding that they are a scam.

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              • wrx7mW
                wrx7m
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                I had no idea that this shit even existed. People fall for this enough for it to exist? Wow.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @wrx7m
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                  @wrx7m said in EOS...The Entrepreneurial Operating System for Small Businesses, anyone heard/use it??:

                  I had no idea that this shit even existed. People fall for this enough for it to exist? Wow.

                  Not that they fall for it, but that industries say "we need standards" and then people create things with good intent that get twisted into "You MUST do this stupid and crazy thing this exact way otherwise you don't pass audit and you don't pass go and you don't get to collect $200".

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
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                    The issue comes in when these "Standards/Auditors" come up with things randomly as a checkbox, without someone who actually understands the technology/business and puts it down on paper without knowing what the hell it actually means.

                    Think of 🌶 Curtis who said he "programmed printers". What he meant was he assigned a static IP address. Not that he was writing his own RIP software for the printer. But what an audit might say is "Did you write your own RIP software?" Yes or No" and if you mark No, well you fail because they expect you to say YES, when in fact the question should be "Are all of your networked printers statically assigned via TCP/IP?".

                    As the Auditor and developer of the Audit system, they have an incentive to make the process difficult and convoluted because they charge you more, for the more things you "miss" (read that as things you didn't do stupidly).

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                      @wrx7m said in EOS...The Entrepreneurial Operating System for Small Businesses, anyone heard/use it??:

                      I had no idea that this shit even existed. People fall for this enough for it to exist? Wow.

                      regularly, it's big business running these scams. It's the business equivalent of those self help conference people.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        In the real world, companies are run by humans who can be socially engineered just like regular consumers. We hope that being in an office, knowing that they represent a business, the ability to apply logic and financial value calculations, peer review, and good processes would minimize how much this happens, but few companies are really that good at that stuff.

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                          flaxking
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                          The founder ran his family's unnamed sales training company for a couple years and sold it. Not exactly the greatest credentials, but I didn't see anything negative on Reddit, which is a first.

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                            Spiral
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                            I have a client who started a consulting firm, which uses EOS concepts. From his explaination, he basically is like a business efficency consultant. Many problems business have go unnoticed because the owners or mangers are too close to the problem. (Working IN the business, versus, Working ON the business )

                            My client follows the concepts in the book "Traction", and has the Lean Six Sigma Certifications. Those skills are applied to develop relevant KPIs to the business processes and procedures he says.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Spiral
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                              @Spiral said in EOS...The Entrepreneurial Operating System for Small Businesses, anyone heard/use it??:

                              My client follows the concepts in the book "Traction", and has the Lean Six Sigma Certifications. Those skills are applied to develop relevant KPIs to the business processes and procedures he says.

                              Those are specifically the kinds of things that people would hope to fix. Six Sigma would be a disaster in an IT business! Talk about inefficiency!

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                                Spiral
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                                I think he also said he had two IT shops as clients of his, but, he is focused on the business, not how the technicians performed their craft.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Spiral
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                                  @Spiral said in EOS...The Entrepreneurial Operating System for Small Businesses, anyone heard/use it??:

                                  I think he also said he had two IT shops as clients of his, but, he is focused on the business, not how the technicians performed their craft.

                                  Yup, but Six Sigma is focused on "the craft" of manufacturing. So using it on "the business" is the same as using it on IT. IT is just "business" in reality.

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                                    Spiral
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                                    Simply, I think he separates the "business" from the "practice" of whatever the profession is.

                                    Reminds me of the E-myth series...

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                                      flaxking @Spiral
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