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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
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      @Mike-Ralston said:

      So nothing even remotely strenuous... Decent HP and Lenovo pre-builts may be cheaper.

      Just looked and they are not. Once you add the SSD, 8GB and GPU they are quite a bit behind.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Mike Ralston
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        @Mike-Ralston said:

        And @thanksaj No average NTG employee has any reason to need an i7.

        Yeah, i7 makes no sense here. i3 more likely, i5 possibly. But that's about it.

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        • Mike RalstonM
          Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Mike-Ralston said:

          And @thanksaj No average NTG employee has any reason to need an i7.

          Yeah, i7 makes no sense here. i3 more likely, i5 possibly. But that's about it.

          Mhmm. And a dedicated GPU would always be a possibility, later on.

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          • Minion QueenM
            Minion Queen Banned
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            Remember that most everyone only needs a 2 monitor setup unlike me.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
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              @Minion-Queen said:

              Remember that most everyone only needs a 2 monitor setup unlike me.

              The mobo that he listed, the MSI, will do dual monitors digital and a third monitor via VGA all native to the mobo.

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              • Mike RalstonM
                Mike Ralston @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller And the APU supports is, I chose the parts carefully.

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                • thanksajdotcomT
                  thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Mike-Ralston said:

                  And @thanksaj No average NTG employee has any reason to need an i7.

                  Yeah, i7 makes no sense here. i3 more likely, i5 possibly. But that's about it.

                  At least go i5. That makes way more sense than an i3, given how much most people are doing at once.

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                  • thanksajdotcomT
                    thanksajdotcom @thanksajdotcom
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                    @thanksaj said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Mike-Ralston said:

                    And @thanksaj No average NTG employee has any reason to need an i7.

                    Yeah, i7 makes no sense here. i3 more likely, i5 possibly. But that's about it.

                    At least go i5. That makes way more sense than an i3, given how much most people are doing at once.

                    I couldn't imagine an i5 instead of my i7, but that's just me...

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                    • thanksajdotcomT
                      thanksajdotcom @Minion Queen
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                      @Minion-Queen said:

                      Remember that most everyone only needs a 2 monitor setup unlike me.

                      Three is ideal though...

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                      • Mike RalstonM
                        Mike Ralston @thanksajdotcom
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                        @thanksaj Work rigs for NTG employees. Not anything ridiculous.

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                        • thanksajdotcomT
                          thanksajdotcom @Mike Ralston
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                          @Mike-Ralston said:

                          @thanksaj Work rigs for NTG employees. Not anything ridiculous.

                          Yeah, I know. Still, don't go i3. i5 is worth it for the extra $$.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                            @thanksaj said:

                            At least go i5. That makes way more sense than an i3, given how much most people are doing at once.

                            What aspect of the i5 makes you feel that way? It's really thread engine count that matters there.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                              @thanksaj said:

                              I couldn't imagine an i5 instead of my i7, but that's just me...

                              Are you pushing your CPU? What makes an i7 make sense for you?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                @thanksaj said:

                                Three is ideal though...

                                I use two, more than that and I lose productivity.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                  @thanksaj said:

                                  Yeah, I know. Still, don't go i3. i5 is worth it for the extra $$.

                                  I'm not saying that it isn't, what what aspect of the i5 do you feel makes it worth the price difference?

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                                  • thanksajdotcomT
                                    thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @thanksaj said:

                                    Three is ideal though...

                                    I use two, more than that and I lose productivity.

                                    Have you used three? Extensively?

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                                    • thanksajdotcomT
                                      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @thanksaj said:

                                      Yeah, I know. Still, don't go i3. i5 is worth it for the extra $$.

                                      I'm not saying that it isn't, what what aspect of the i5 do you feel makes it worth the price difference?

                                      I don't have the exact specs numbers, etc. Just from personal experience of trying to do the same stuff on an i3 vs an i5...the i3 is good for most people, but the i5 is enough extra oomph that for people, like IT people, it just seems to handle the multi-tasking better and more processes better. Also, IT machines get bogged down over time as opposed to most normal users. Normal users have the same programs all the time and generally can't install programs of their choosing. IT will download something to try and install it but sometimes forget to uninstall it. We also tend to be doing a lot more tasks as once than average users. This is coming from a pure experience perspective. I've just had better experience with the feel of an i5 in a system than an i3.

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                                      • thanksajdotcomT
                                        thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @thanksaj said:

                                        Three is ideal though...

                                        I use two, more than that and I lose productivity.

                                        How do you lose productivity? I can see losing productivity at more than 3...I am pretty unique in managing 7 screens, but that's a talent that is developed for sure...

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                          @thanksaj said:

                                          Have you used three? Extensively?

                                          Using "a three" and understanding what the differences between a 3 and a 5 are very different things. You might as well say "have you ever used an Intel" or "ever used a PC." If you don't understand what you are talking about, how do you know it was the processor labeling that was the issue?

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                                          • thanksajdotcomT
                                            thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @thanksaj said:

                                            I couldn't imagine an i5 instead of my i7, but that's just me...

                                            Are you pushing your CPU? What makes an i7 make sense for you?

                                            Because my machine is EVERYTHING to me. It's my gaming station, my workstation, my everything. (I should write a song...) I need it to be able to play Skyrim or Dragon Age, and I need it to be able to run 7 displays and have 2-3 dozen programs open between daemons and other services and open windows while I still have everything else I'm dong going.

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