Commercial Desktops vs. Whiteboxes
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@scottalanmiller said:
Same things that the existing machines, the dc5850s, just aren't cutting it for anymore. With triple core, 6GB, screaming fast SSD and discrete NVidia GPU they are great for their age, amazing in fact, and were super affordable, but they are showing their age. The unbelievable amounts of JavaScript that they have to run and the number of different things that people have running is just too much for them. Our use cases have increases quite a bit.
And running big IDEs like RubyMine and VisualStudio take a toll too.
I can't believe you're still using those! Intel i7 CPUs FTW!
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Mike-Ralston said:
@scottalanmiller What do you want these machines to do, and at what price point?
Standard desktops for everyone to use. Not for running VMs (we have the lab for that), but for documents, lots of web browsers, LogMeIn sessions, PuTTY, etc.
So nothing even remotely strenuous... Decent HP and Lenovo pre-builts may be cheaper. Shall I look into those? And @thanksaj No average NTG employee has any reason to need an i7. And the DC 5850 was built to run XP, of COURSE it's outdated.
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@Mike-Ralston said:
So nothing even remotely strenuous... Decent HP and Lenovo pre-builts may be cheaper.
Just looked and they are not. Once you add the SSD, 8GB and GPU they are quite a bit behind.
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@Mike-Ralston said:
And @thanksaj No average NTG employee has any reason to need an i7.
Yeah, i7 makes no sense here. i3 more likely, i5 possibly. But that's about it.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Mike-Ralston said:
And @thanksaj No average NTG employee has any reason to need an i7.
Yeah, i7 makes no sense here. i3 more likely, i5 possibly. But that's about it.
Mhmm. And a dedicated GPU would always be a possibility, later on.
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Remember that most everyone only needs a 2 monitor setup unlike me.
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@Minion-Queen said:
Remember that most everyone only needs a 2 monitor setup unlike me.
The mobo that he listed, the MSI, will do dual monitors digital and a third monitor via VGA all native to the mobo.
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@scottalanmiller And the APU supports is, I chose the parts carefully.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Mike-Ralston said:
And @thanksaj No average NTG employee has any reason to need an i7.
Yeah, i7 makes no sense here. i3 more likely, i5 possibly. But that's about it.
At least go i5. That makes way more sense than an i3, given how much most people are doing at once.
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@thanksaj said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Mike-Ralston said:
And @thanksaj No average NTG employee has any reason to need an i7.
Yeah, i7 makes no sense here. i3 more likely, i5 possibly. But that's about it.
At least go i5. That makes way more sense than an i3, given how much most people are doing at once.
I couldn't imagine an i5 instead of my i7, but that's just me...
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@Minion-Queen said:
Remember that most everyone only needs a 2 monitor setup unlike me.
Three is ideal though...
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@thanksaj Work rigs for NTG employees. Not anything ridiculous.
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@Mike-Ralston said:
@thanksaj Work rigs for NTG employees. Not anything ridiculous.
Yeah, I know. Still, don't go i3. i5 is worth it for the extra $$.
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@thanksaj said:
At least go i5. That makes way more sense than an i3, given how much most people are doing at once.
What aspect of the i5 makes you feel that way? It's really thread engine count that matters there.
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@thanksaj said:
I couldn't imagine an i5 instead of my i7, but that's just me...
Are you pushing your CPU? What makes an i7 make sense for you?
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@thanksaj said:
Three is ideal though...
I use two, more than that and I lose productivity.
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@thanksaj said:
Yeah, I know. Still, don't go i3. i5 is worth it for the extra $$.
I'm not saying that it isn't, what what aspect of the i5 do you feel makes it worth the price difference?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksaj said:
Three is ideal though...
I use two, more than that and I lose productivity.
Have you used three? Extensively?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksaj said:
Yeah, I know. Still, don't go i3. i5 is worth it for the extra $$.
I'm not saying that it isn't, what what aspect of the i5 do you feel makes it worth the price difference?
I don't have the exact specs numbers, etc. Just from personal experience of trying to do the same stuff on an i3 vs an i5...the i3 is good for most people, but the i5 is enough extra oomph that for people, like IT people, it just seems to handle the multi-tasking better and more processes better. Also, IT machines get bogged down over time as opposed to most normal users. Normal users have the same programs all the time and generally can't install programs of their choosing. IT will download something to try and install it but sometimes forget to uninstall it. We also tend to be doing a lot more tasks as once than average users. This is coming from a pure experience perspective. I've just had better experience with the feel of an i5 in a system than an i3.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksaj said:
Three is ideal though...
I use two, more than that and I lose productivity.
How do you lose productivity? I can see losing productivity at more than 3...I am pretty unique in managing 7 screens, but that's a talent that is developed for sure...
