Commercial Desktops vs. Whiteboxes
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@Minion-Queen Only having 8GB of RAM (the standard recommended amount) is more of a bottleneck than the CPU. You're close to 60% RAM usage, right?
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75% RAM usage.
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How much more to spec at 16GB?
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@scottalanmiller 8GB is enough. The point I was making is that those CPU's are more than enough. But, I can get 16GB for between $150-$200.
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@scottalanmiller What do you want these machines to do, and at what price point?
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@Mike-Ralston said:
@scottalanmiller What do you want these machines to do, and at what price point?
Standard desktops for everyone to use. Not for running VMs (we have the lab for that), but for documents, lots of web browsers, LogMeIn sessions, PuTTY, etc.
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Somehow missed this conversation when I posted my recent thread. This is a niche situation though, compared to 99.9% of businesses in the world. That being said, I think it'd work.
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Same things that the existing machines, the dc5850s, just aren't cutting it for anymore. With triple core, 6GB, screaming fast SSD and discrete NVidia GPU they are great for their age, amazing in fact, and were super affordable, but they are showing their age. The unbelievable amounts of JavaScript that they have to run and the number of different things that people have running is just too much for them. Our use cases have increases quite a bit.
And running big IDEs like RubyMine and VisualStudio take a toll too.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Same things that the existing machines, the dc5850s, just aren't cutting it for anymore. With triple core, 6GB, screaming fast SSD and discrete NVidia GPU they are great for their age, amazing in fact, and were super affordable, but they are showing their age. The unbelievable amounts of JavaScript that they have to run and the number of different things that people have running is just too much for them. Our use cases have increases quite a bit.
And running big IDEs like RubyMine and VisualStudio take a toll too.
I can't believe you're still using those! Intel i7 CPUs FTW!
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Mike-Ralston said:
@scottalanmiller What do you want these machines to do, and at what price point?
Standard desktops for everyone to use. Not for running VMs (we have the lab for that), but for documents, lots of web browsers, LogMeIn sessions, PuTTY, etc.
So nothing even remotely strenuous... Decent HP and Lenovo pre-builts may be cheaper. Shall I look into those? And @thanksaj No average NTG employee has any reason to need an i7. And the DC 5850 was built to run XP, of COURSE it's outdated.
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@Mike-Ralston said:
So nothing even remotely strenuous... Decent HP and Lenovo pre-builts may be cheaper.
Just looked and they are not. Once you add the SSD, 8GB and GPU they are quite a bit behind.
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@Mike-Ralston said:
And @thanksaj No average NTG employee has any reason to need an i7.
Yeah, i7 makes no sense here. i3 more likely, i5 possibly. But that's about it.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Mike-Ralston said:
And @thanksaj No average NTG employee has any reason to need an i7.
Yeah, i7 makes no sense here. i3 more likely, i5 possibly. But that's about it.
Mhmm. And a dedicated GPU would always be a possibility, later on.
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Remember that most everyone only needs a 2 monitor setup unlike me.
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@Minion-Queen said:
Remember that most everyone only needs a 2 monitor setup unlike me.
The mobo that he listed, the MSI, will do dual monitors digital and a third monitor via VGA all native to the mobo.
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@scottalanmiller And the APU supports is, I chose the parts carefully.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Mike-Ralston said:
And @thanksaj No average NTG employee has any reason to need an i7.
Yeah, i7 makes no sense here. i3 more likely, i5 possibly. But that's about it.
At least go i5. That makes way more sense than an i3, given how much most people are doing at once.
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@thanksaj said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Mike-Ralston said:
And @thanksaj No average NTG employee has any reason to need an i7.
Yeah, i7 makes no sense here. i3 more likely, i5 possibly. But that's about it.
At least go i5. That makes way more sense than an i3, given how much most people are doing at once.
I couldn't imagine an i5 instead of my i7, but that's just me...
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@Minion-Queen said:
Remember that most everyone only needs a 2 monitor setup unlike me.
Three is ideal though...
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@thanksaj Work rigs for NTG employees. Not anything ridiculous.
