On-Premises soft PBX
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@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Pete-S said in On-Premises soft PBX:
We went with Yealink T41S. It's a simple business phone.
They're the same as T42S but 100Mbit instead of 1Gbit (who cares?) and a bit lower in cost.You care when you're using them as a passthrough for a PC. Then you only need one switch port instead of two.
We've got customers who still have 25 year old cabling and live on 100Mb/s believe it or not. We have been deploying 100Mb/s passthrough phones for them.
I didn't say there wasn't a case. If we make the switch - I'm going to be seeing if I can get a good enough signal on CAT 3 cabling for some phones to prevent me having to run new cable - in those cases, 100 Mb/s phones would be fine.
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@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Pete-S said in On-Premises soft PBX:
We went with Yealink T41S. It's a simple business phone.
They're the same as T42S but 100Mbit instead of 1Gbit (who cares?) and a bit lower in cost.You care when you're using them as a passthrough for a PC. Then you only need one switch port instead of two.
We've got customers who still have 25 year old cabling and live on 100Mb/s believe it or not. We have been deploying 100Mb/s passthrough phones for them.
I didn't say there wasn't a case. If we make the switch - I'm going to be seeing if I can get a good enough signal on CAT 3 cabling for some phones to prevent me having to run new cable - in those cases, 100 Mb/s phones would be fine.
There is absolutely no reason that you cannot do fast ethernet on cat three. That is in the design spec
That said I would recommend sticking with the same model phone or at least the same physical form factor add a minimum just to make things simpler to manage.
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@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Pete-S said in On-Premises soft PBX:
We went with Yealink T41S. It's a simple business phone.
They're the same as T42S but 100Mbit instead of 1Gbit (who cares?) and a bit lower in cost.You care when you're using them as a passthrough for a PC. Then you only need one switch port instead of two.
We've got customers who still have 25 year old cabling and live on 100Mb/s believe it or not. We have been deploying 100Mb/s passthrough phones for them.
I didn't say there wasn't a case. If we make the switch - I'm going to be seeing if I can get a good enough signal on CAT 3 cabling for some phones to prevent me having to run new cable - in those cases, 100 Mb/s phones would be fine.
There is absolutely no reason that you cannot do fast ethernet on cat three. That is in the design spec
That said I would recommend sticking with the same model phone or at least the same physical form factor add a minimum just to make things simpler to manage.
That makes sense, sticking with the same physical form factor. Even though I know we could get along with those super cheap phones in most of these places I'm talking about.
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@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Pete-S said in On-Premises soft PBX:
We went with Yealink T41S. It's a simple business phone.
They're the same as T42S but 100Mbit instead of 1Gbit (who cares?) and a bit lower in cost.You care when you're using them as a passthrough for a PC. Then you only need one switch port instead of two.
We've got customers who still have 25 year old cabling and live on 100Mb/s believe it or not. We have been deploying 100Mb/s passthrough phones for them.
I didn't say there wasn't a case. If we make the switch - I'm going to be seeing if I can get a good enough signal on CAT 3 cabling for some phones to prevent me having to run new cable - in those cases, 100 Mb/s phones would be fine.
There is absolutely no reason that you cannot do fast ethernet on cat three. That is in the design spec
That said I would recommend sticking with the same model phone or at least the same physical form factor add a minimum just to make things simpler to manage.
That makes sense, sticking with the same physical form factor. Even though I know we could get along with those super cheap phones in most of these places I'm talking about.
With Yealink, that can be done with the T41S and T42S. Same form factor.
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And the T42S are still quite cheap. Not $70 cheap, but not bad.
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@scottalanmiller @PhlipElder we're using http://www.iristel.com/business/products/sip-trunking for our Canadian sites. I don't look after the telecom stuff but from what I understand they're closer to a 1st tier provider and actually resell to many of the other sip providers
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@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
And the T42S are still quite cheap. Not $70 cheap, but not bad.
They should be very simple to find for about $90. Iām sure in bulk from some kind of VAR you can get them cheaper.
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@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Pete-S said in On-Premises soft PBX:
We went with Yealink T41S. It's a simple business phone.
They're the same as T42S but 100Mbit instead of 1Gbit (who cares?) and a bit lower in cost.You care when you're using them as a passthrough for a PC. Then you only need one switch port instead of two.
That would be my case as well. It is very rare that we have a phone without a PC passed through the phone.
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@notverypunny said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller @PhlipElder we're using http://www.iristel.com/business/products/sip-trunking for our Canadian sites. I don't look after the telecom stuff but from what I understand they're closer to a 1st tier provider and actually resell to many of the other sip providers
Have not used them. Seem pretty good on your end?
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@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Pete-S said in On-Premises soft PBX:
We went with Yealink T41S. It's a simple business phone.
They're the same as T42S but 100Mbit instead of 1Gbit (who cares?) and a bit lower in cost.You care when you're using them as a passthrough for a PC. Then you only need one switch port instead of two.
That would be my case as well. It is very rare that we have a phone without a PC passed through the phone.
This is what I do at home, too.
I even have one phone that passes through to a Shield console, lol.
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For those wondering, NTG has a secret extension for the help desk to use that rings my bedroom at home. That way I can get calls in the middle of the night for emergencies, or make calls, or listen to conference bridges... but it isn't my usual number and is not part of the ring groups. So only the on call person is supposed to use it.
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If you are going to deploy freepbx, would you-
- Do it on-prem, VPS or have it hosted (https://www.freepbx.org/store/hosted-freepbx/)?
- If doing your own deployment, use the FreePBX Distro or do it all manually?
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@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
If you are going to deploy freepbx, would you-
- Do it on-prem, VPS or have it hosted (https://www.freepbx.org/store/hosted-freepbx/)?
- If doing your own deployment, use the FreePBX Distro or do it all manually?
Not sure if you are asking for general opinions or something specific to a scenario listed somewhere above. But here we go...
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This depends on the customer and their needs and their calling patterns. Nearly always on Vultr cloud because of cost, features, and performance. Only very rarely does on prem make sense for a phone system.
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Distro
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@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
If you are going to deploy freepbx, would you-
- Do it on-prem, VPS or have it hosted (https://www.freepbx.org/store/hosted-freepbx/)?
- If doing your own deployment, use the FreePBX Distro or do it all manually?
Not sure if you are asking for general opinions or something specific to a scenario listed somewhere above. But here we go...
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This depends on the customer and their needs and their calling patterns. Nearly always on Vultr cloud because of cost, features, and performance. Only very rarely does on prem make sense for a phone system.
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Distro
That is what I was looking for.
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@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
If you are going to deploy freepbx, would you-
- Do it on-prem, VPS or have it hosted (https://www.freepbx.org/store/hosted-freepbx/)?
- If doing your own deployment, use the FreePBX Distro or do it all manually?
Not sure if you are asking for general opinions or something specific to a scenario listed somewhere above. But here we go...
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This depends on the customer and their needs and their calling patterns. Nearly always on Vultr cloud because of cost, features, and performance. Only very rarely does on prem make sense for a phone system.
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Distro
That is what I was looking for.
Watch my video from SpiceWorld. I had a question about hosted or not. The answer to it is it depends on where oyu need your survivability at.
As for your own. You NEVER install something manually unless you have a very specific knowledge goal.
In the case of FreePBX, what are you trying to gain by setting it up manually? Do you even have a clue what that requires if you do not use the Distro? I can tell you it involves compiling asterisk yourself.
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@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Pete-S said in On-Premises soft PBX:
We went with Yealink T41S. It's a simple business phone.
They're the same as T42S but 100Mbit instead of 1Gbit (who cares?) and a bit lower in cost.You care when you're using them as a passthrough for a PC. Then you only need one switch port instead of two.
That would be my case as well. It is very rare that we have a phone without a PC passed through the phone.
Makes sense I guess. We don't, so 100 Mbit phones are fine for us. PoE ports of course.
But there are probably a lot of cases where 100 Mbit passthrough would be fine as well. If you are using wifi for instance. Or if you don't have services on-prem and then you share the ISP bandwidth with everyone else.
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@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
If you are going to deploy freepbx, would you-
- Do it on-prem, VPS or have it hosted (https://www.freepbx.org/store/hosted-freepbx/)?
- If doing your own deployment, use the FreePBX Distro or do it all manually?
Not sure if you are asking for general opinions or something specific to a scenario listed somewhere above. But here we go...
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This depends on the customer and their needs and their calling patterns. Nearly always on Vultr cloud because of cost, features, and performance. Only very rarely does on prem make sense for a phone system.
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Distro
That is what I was looking for.
Watch my video from SpiceWorld. I had a question about hosted or not. The answer to it is it depends on where oyu need your survivability at.
As for your own. You NEVER install something manually unless you have a very specific knowledge goal.
In the case of FreePBX, what are you trying to gain by setting it up manually? Do you even have a clue what that requires if you do not use the Distro? I can tell you it involves compiling asterisk yourself.
Thanks. I will look for your video. I wasn't sure based on the differences between other products, i.e. turn key or virtual appliances, where it can be problematic. I did see that manual involves compiling Asterisk and was definitely not going to do that myself.
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@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
If you are going to deploy freepbx, would you-
- Do it on-prem, VPS or have it hosted (https://www.freepbx.org/store/hosted-freepbx/)?
- If doing your own deployment, use the FreePBX Distro or do it all manually?
Not sure if you are asking for general opinions or something specific to a scenario listed somewhere above. But here we go...
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This depends on the customer and their needs and their calling patterns. Nearly always on Vultr cloud because of cost, features, and performance. Only very rarely does on prem make sense for a phone system.
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Distro
That is what I was looking for.
Watch my video from SpiceWorld. I had a question about hosted or not. The answer to it is it depends on where oyu need your survivability at.
As for your own. You NEVER install something manually unless you have a very specific knowledge goal.
In the case of FreePBX, what are you trying to gain by setting it up manually? Do you even have a clue what that requires if you do not use the Distro? I can tell you it involves compiling asterisk yourself.
Thanks. I will look for your video. I wasn't sure based on the differences between other products, i.e. turn key or virtual appliances, where it can be problematic. I did see that manual involves compiling Asterisk and was definitely not going to do that myself.
I linked it here someplace in the last few days.
IF oyu can't find it, let me know.
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my phones are on a completely physically separate network.
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@Donahue said in On-Premises soft PBX:
my phones are on a completely physically separate network.
Why?
