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    • DonahueD
      Donahue
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      ok, I think I got the root password changed and the ncuser password changed. wish me luck

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      • DonahueD
        Donahue
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        nope. F it, I am going to just start over.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

          @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

          @DustinB3403 said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

          @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

          @DustinB3403 said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

          @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

          57757506-23a2-4377-952e-5da184e71f01-image.png

          Does this show root? I just left the password blank.

          So you didn't set a root password at all if where it says "Enter password:" you just tapped enter and were logged in.

          That should be updated to be secured with a password.

          correct. that makes me think it didnt take the password earlier, because of bad characters.

          You would've set the password when you ran mysql_secure_installation

          I didnt run that, I followed the script.

          hrm, yeah just looking. @JaredBusch is there a reason to not run mysql_secure_installation ?

          Because that is what those mysql -e commands do.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

            @DustinB3403 said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

            @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

            @DustinB3403 said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

            @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

            @DustinB3403 said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

            @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

            57757506-23a2-4377-952e-5da184e71f01-image.png

            Does this show root? I just left the password blank.

            So you didn't set a root password at all if where it says "Enter password:" you just tapped enter and were logged in.

            That should be updated to be secured with a password.

            correct. that makes me think it didnt take the password earlier, because of bad characters.

            You would've set the password when you ran mysql_secure_installation

            I didnt run that, I followed the script.

            hrm, yeah just looking. @JaredBusch is there a reason to not run mysql_secure_installation ?

            Because that is what those mysql -e commands do.

            Ah never knew that.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Donahue
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              @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

              @JaredBusch said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

              @DustinB3403 said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

              @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

              @JaredBusch said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

              @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

              @JaredBusch said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

              mysql -e "CREATE USER 'ncadmin'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'N@2$#sx67UkIZ^$xsInW0&7Z';"
              

              This is you using an invalid character in a mysql password.

              what is the invalid character?

              @JaredBusch is probably looking it up, but only numbers and letters are allowed here from what I can find.

              They can be complex, but you have risks of them being misinterpreted. Like bash reading it as a variable.

              so stick with letters and numbers?

              Yup, that's a general rule.

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              • DonahueD
                Donahue @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                @JaredBusch said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                @DustinB3403 said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                @JaredBusch said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                @JaredBusch said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                mysql -e "CREATE USER 'ncadmin'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'N@2$#sx67UkIZ^$xsInW0&7Z';"
                

                This is you using an invalid character in a mysql password.

                what is the invalid character?

                @JaredBusch is probably looking it up, but only numbers and letters are allowed here from what I can find.

                They can be complex, but you have risks of them being misinterpreted. Like bash reading it as a variable.

                so stick with letters and numbers?

                Yup, that's a general rule.

                where is this the general rule? Linux? databases?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Donahue
                  last edited by

                  @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                  @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                  @JaredBusch said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                  @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                  @JaredBusch said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                  @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                  @JaredBusch said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                  mysql -e "CREATE USER 'ncadmin'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'N@2$#sx67UkIZ^$xsInW0&7Z';"
                  

                  This is you using an invalid character in a mysql password.

                  what is the invalid character?

                  @JaredBusch is probably looking it up, but only numbers and letters are allowed here from what I can find.

                  They can be complex, but you have risks of them being misinterpreted. Like bash reading it as a variable.

                  so stick with letters and numbers?

                  Yup, that's a general rule.

                  where is this the general rule? Linux? databases?

                  Anytime you are scripting passwords, automating passwords, or using passwords in systems you don't know exactly how everything between the keyboard and the final system are going to interpret special codes.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @Donahue
                    last edited by

                    @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                    @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                    @JaredBusch said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                    @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                    @JaredBusch said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                    @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                    @JaredBusch said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                    mysql -e "CREATE USER 'ncadmin'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'N@2$#sx67UkIZ^$xsInW0&7Z';"
                    

                    This is you using an invalid character in a mysql password.

                    what is the invalid character?

                    @JaredBusch is probably looking it up, but only numbers and letters are allowed here from what I can find.

                    They can be complex, but you have risks of them being misinterpreted. Like bash reading it as a variable.

                    so stick with letters and numbers?

                    Yup, that's a general rule.

                    where is this the general rule? Linux? databases?

                    I believe it was actually a requirement in the past. but no longer. I'd have to go search to find when they updated it.

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                    • DonahueD
                      Donahue
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                      TIL, use simple passwords.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @Donahue
                        last edited by

                        @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                        TIL, use simple passwords.

                        Incorrect.

                        Use long passwords.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          I believe 32 is the limit due to replication or something.

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                          • DonahueD
                            Donahue
                            last edited by

                            I default to 24

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                            • DonahueD
                              Donahue
                              last edited by

                              some places complain if they are too long.

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                              • DonahueD
                                Donahue
                                last edited by

                                hell, our ERP only allows 10

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Donahue
                                  last edited by

                                  @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                  TIL, use simple passwords.

                                  Simple CHARACTERS in passwords. Special characters aren't complex to a computer, only seem that way to humans.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Donahue
                                    last edited by

                                    @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                    hell, our ERP only allows 10

                                    That's a different kind of problem.

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                                    • DonahueD
                                      Donahue @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                      @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                      TIL, use simple passwords.

                                      Simple CHARACTERS in passwords. Special characters aren't complex to a computer, only seem that way to humans.

                                      they do add to the list of possible characters to try when brute forcing though.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @Donahue
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                                        @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                        @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                        TIL, use simple passwords.

                                        Simple CHARACTERS in passwords. Special characters aren't complex to a computer, only seem that way to humans.

                                        they do add to the list of possible characters to try when brute forcing though.

                                        Sure. . . but when your possible list of 24 digit passwords (including upper and lowercase) makes for an extremely long password with some insane number of combinations.

                                        So it's plenty secure.

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                                        • DonahueD
                                          Donahue @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                          @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                          @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                          TIL, use simple passwords.

                                          Simple CHARACTERS in passwords. Special characters aren't complex to a computer, only seem that way to humans.

                                          they do add to the list of possible characters to try when brute forcing though.

                                          Sure. . . but when your possible list of 24 digit passwords (including upper and lowercase) makes for an extremely long password with some insane number of combinations.

                                          So it's plenty secure.

                                          It doesn't take any more effort for me to generate a more secure password with symbols added, so why skimp?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Donahue
                                            last edited by

                                            @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                            @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                            TIL, use simple passwords.

                                            Simple CHARACTERS in passwords. Special characters aren't complex to a computer, only seem that way to humans.

                                            they do add to the list of possible characters to try when brute forcing though.

                                            Only sort of. Only in the situation where you assume that all non-special character options will be attempted first. Otherwise, it doesn't actually do that.

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