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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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      @Carnival-Boy said:

      We're supposed to do it. Pretty much everyone does it, don't they? I don't see how it is off-putting since it is so common, at least here in the UK and I can't imagine the US is any different.

      I've never seen a highly respected company do it. It's mostly an SMB thing and flags you as such. No big company that I know of does it. Not Wall St. firms or anything like that. I see it exclusively from SMBs who don't understand the law and don't understand the impression that they give to others.

      It's very off-putting. It is rude and insulting. Read what most of those statements say - they make inappropriate demands of a third party. IF someone sends me email they have no right to say those things to me and it is outright rude to do so. Imagine if you stated something like that to someone in person. Bad enough once, now imagine it after everything you say. It's both rude and spammy.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
        last edited by

        @Carnival-Boy said:

        That said, when we upgraded our mail server two years ago, I "forgot" to implement it and no-one has mentioned the fact that it no longer appears. I should probably get round to sorting it out...

        I would leave it. What's the upside? The downsides might be small, but if there is no upside, any downside is still a downside.

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          Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          I would leave it. What's the upside?

          That my boss won't ask me why I haven't done it already.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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            @Carnival-Boy said:

            That my boss won't ask me why I haven't done it already.

            Good point. Although the longer you go, the less likely anyone is to notice. They've been conditioned to not have it. It will slip more and more from their minds. Implement it and it is a flare letting people know that you forgot until now 🙂

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              Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              No big company that I know of does it. Not Wall St. firms or anything like that.

              I've just checked some e-mail's I've received from people at three different big banks and they all have one. Maybe it's more of a UK thing.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                @Carnival-Boy said:

                I've just checked some e-mail's I've received from people at three different big banks and they all have one. Maybe it's more of a UK thing.

                Big ones like HSBC and Barclays? Or little local ones?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  I just checked and I DID get this from Barclays.

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                    Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Big ones like HSBC and Barclays?

                    Yes, those two plus LloydsTSB.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
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                      AT&T

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        AT&T again.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch that one is a little better because it tells what is intended and asks nicely that someone "please" do something. Far better than people demanding that an unknown third party 1) go to a web site to read rules 2) obey the commands of the sender 3) face prosecution for having been the unwitting recipient of potential spam.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch
                            last edited by JaredBusch

                            http://www.rhlaw.com/blog/legal-effect-of-boilerplate-email-disclaimers/

                            Bah hit submit on accident.

                            Anyway, this post was citing some court decisions that did recognize the disclaimers.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              Basically it is all a big maybe.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said:

                                http://www.rhlaw.com/blog/legal-effect-of-boilerplate-email-disclaimers/

                                Bah hit submit on accident.

                                Anyway, this post was citing some court decisions that did recognize the disclaimers.

                                Yes, those all make sense. None of those are the case that I find useless, though, which is telling people "if you are not the intended recipient" that they must take some action. Announcing legal confidentiality or putting notices on internal communications are very different - that's a disclaimer between intended parties.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  UK is looking to take legal action against disclaimers.

                                  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30710481

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                                    Carnival Boy
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                                    Ugh, our country is falling apart but our politicians still find the time to dick around with trivial legislation telling us what we can and can't do.

                                    We've just implemented a signature management system by these boys www.exclaimer.co.uk, primarily to embed our company logo into all outgoing e-mails. This works a treat with on-premise Exchange and Marketing love it (by default, anything Marketing love, I hate). They also do an Office365 version.

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