How critical is SSD on a web server?
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If you are using caching, is SSD really all that important? Is SATA an acceptable alternative or will there be a notable performance decrease.
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Doesn't matter much at all unless the server is super busy. The database and code is all in memory normally, along with the cache, so the drives aren't being hit under normal circumstances.
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@scottalanmiller said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
Doesn't matter much at all unless the server is super busy. The database and code is all in memory normally, along with the cache, so the drives aren't being hit under normal circumstances.
Would you pay the extra costs and sacrifice disk space on a web server?
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@irj said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
@scottalanmiller said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
Doesn't matter much at all unless the server is super busy. The database and code is all in memory normally, along with the cache, so the drives aren't being hit under normal circumstances.
Would you pay the extra costs and sacrifice disk space on a web server?
It's not extra cost for us, SSDs are included in most all plans today. To get the CPU and RAM we want, SSDs just come along for the ride. So we do, we use SSDs for all of that stuff, but there isn't any "extra."
If you are in a situation where you can do something cheaper without SSD, it would depend how much the SSDs are.
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Web servers typically do not benefit from extra space, either. basically web servers don't use storage in any way. But SSDs at least give you faster boot times, swap space, updates, etc. Extra space would give us literally nothing, in our cases.
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@scottalanmiller said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
Web servers typically do not benefit from extra space, either. basically web servers don't use storage in any way. But SSDs at least give you faster boot times, swap space, updates, etc. Extra space would give us literally nothing, in our cases.
Are your DBs for your WP servers running on the same or different hosts from WP?
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@irj I only use ssd's because when my webservers are taking a load its the database that is holding things up. Most plans come with ssd as default anyway at least from what I've seen. I do always pay anything extra to get ssd. Scott is correct that they do not really benefit from extra storage
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@scottalanmiller said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
@irj said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
@scottalanmiller said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
Doesn't matter much at all unless the server is super busy. The database and code is all in memory normally, along with the cache, so the drives aren't being hit under normal circumstances.
Would you pay the extra costs and sacrifice disk space on a web server?
It's not extra cost for us, SSDs are included in most all plans today. To get the CPU and RAM we want, SSDs just come along for the ride. So we do, we use SSDs for all of that stuff, but there isn't any "extra."
If you are in a situation where you can do something cheaper without SSD, it would depend how much the SSDs are.
This is only true when buying a VPS for example. When you build a physical server from Dell, enterprise SSDs still cost more per GB.
If space isn't the driving factor, it's better to use SSDs with slightly lower capacity than spinning rust.
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@dashrender said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
@scottalanmiller said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
Web servers typically do not benefit from extra space, either. basically web servers don't use storage in any way. But SSDs at least give you faster boot times, swap space, updates, etc. Extra space would give us literally nothing, in our cases.
Are your DBs for your WP servers running on the same or different hosts from WP?
You want them on the same for performance. There is no advantage to centralization except a tiny bit of consolidation that would come at a cost of performance and reliability to the customers. If they are on a separate box there are more points of failure to worry about, more noisy neighbour risks, and huge latency bumps.
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@obsolesce said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
@scottalanmiller said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
@irj said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
@scottalanmiller said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
Doesn't matter much at all unless the server is super busy. The database and code is all in memory normally, along with the cache, so the drives aren't being hit under normal circumstances.
Would you pay the extra costs and sacrifice disk space on a web server?
It's not extra cost for us, SSDs are included in most all plans today. To get the CPU and RAM we want, SSDs just come along for the ride. So we do, we use SSDs for all of that stuff, but there isn't any "extra."
If you are in a situation where you can do something cheaper without SSD, it would depend how much the SSDs are.
This is only true when buying a VPS for example. When you build a physical server from Dell, enterprise SSDs still cost more per GB.
If space isn't the driving factor, it's better to use SSDs with slightly lower capacity than spinning rust.
Per GB is the case in both cases. But since the GBs just don't matter, even with a Dell it's about break even.
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@scottalanmiller said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
@obsolesce said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
@scottalanmiller said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
@irj said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
@scottalanmiller said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
Doesn't matter much at all unless the server is super busy. The database and code is all in memory normally, along with the cache, so the drives aren't being hit under normal circumstances.
Would you pay the extra costs and sacrifice disk space on a web server?
It's not extra cost for us, SSDs are included in most all plans today. To get the CPU and RAM we want, SSDs just come along for the ride. So we do, we use SSDs for all of that stuff, but there isn't any "extra."
If you are in a situation where you can do something cheaper without SSD, it would depend how much the SSDs are.
This is only true when buying a VPS for example. When you build a physical server from Dell, enterprise SSDs still cost more per GB.
If space isn't the driving factor, it's better to use SSDs with slightly lower capacity than spinning rust.
Per GB is the case in both cases. But since the GBs just don't matter, even with a Dell it's about break even.
Yup, was just covering all the bases.
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@scottalanmiller said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
@dashrender said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
@scottalanmiller said in How critical is SSD on a web server?:
Web servers typically do not benefit from extra space, either. basically web servers don't use storage in any way. But SSDs at least give you faster boot times, swap space, updates, etc. Extra space would give us literally nothing, in our cases.
Are your DBs for your WP servers running on the same or different hosts from WP?
You want them on the same for performance. There is no advantage to centralization except a tiny bit of consolidation that would come at a cost of performance and reliability to the customers. If they are on a separate box there are more points of failure to worry about, more noisy neighbour risks, and huge latency bumps.
That makes sense.
