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@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
@jaredbusch said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
@jaredbusch said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
@jaredbusch said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
Note that since the guest VMs are Windows based, the Windows Server Standard license covers installing the host OS in Desktop Experience Mode using the Server Standard installer files and activating with the supplied key that came with the license.
It does not work like that.
Please clarify?
There is no desktop experience in Hyper-V. This is basic Hyper-V 101 knowledge here.
To clarify:
Note, that since the guest VMs are Windows based, the licensed and installer files purchased to run those VMs can be used to install the host OS in Desktop Experience Mode and activate using the supplied key.
/sigh
FFS No. this is not how anything works.
The OP is installing Hyper-V Server, as he should. Not Windows Server.
Take a deep breath.
I am suggesting that the OP instead use the OS installer files that came with the purchased license(s) to avoid the expressed frustration with the non-GUI Hyper-V Server.
That better?
No, actually, because you were not suggesting that.
You never recommended that the OP wipe his install completely and then install a Windows Server instead of Hyper-V Server.
You incorrectly spewed misleading information.
Additionally, there are nearing on absolute zero situations where anyone should ever install Windows Server on the hardware.
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@jaredbusch said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
@jaredbusch said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
@jaredbusch said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
@jaredbusch said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
Note that since the guest VMs are Windows based, the Windows Server Standard license covers installing the host OS in Desktop Experience Mode using the Server Standard installer files and activating with the supplied key that came with the license.
It does not work like that.
Please clarify?
There is no desktop experience in Hyper-V. This is basic Hyper-V 101 knowledge here.
To clarify:
Note, that since the guest VMs are Windows based, the licensed and installer files purchased to run those VMs can be used to install the host OS in Desktop Experience Mode and activate using the supplied key.
/sigh
FFS No. this is not how anything works.
The OP is installing Hyper-V Server, as he should. Not Windows Server.
Take a deep breath.
I am suggesting that the OP instead use the OS installer files that came with the purchased license(s) to avoid the expressed frustration with the non-GUI Hyper-V Server.
That better?
No, actually, because you were not suggesting that.
You never recommended that the OP wipe his install completely and then install a Windows Server instead of Hyper-V Server.
You incorrectly spewed misleading information.
Additionally, there are nearing on absolute zero situations where anyone should ever install Windows Server on the hardware.
That's a whole lot of "you" statements. I believe that I've made myself clear in the follow-ups.
Yes, I made a few assumptions there as tends to happen thus the need for clarification.
With a USB flash drive it takes all of 15 minutes to re-install the OS.
And, we install Windows Server on bare hardware a lot here as that's what we do for a living.
Please, feel free to express whatever opinion but keep things professional otherwise what's the point?
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@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
I believe that I've made myself clear in the follow-ups.
You did, but only because I responded to your misleading post.
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@jaredbusch said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
I believe that I've made myself clear in the follow-ups.
You did, but only because I responded to your misleading post.
Dude, give a guy a break. Jimney Cricket.
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@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
@jaredbusch said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
@jaredbusch said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
@jaredbusch said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
Note that since the guest VMs are Windows based, the Windows Server Standard license covers installing the host OS in Desktop Experience Mode using the Server Standard installer files and activating with the supplied key that came with the license.
It does not work like that.
Please clarify?
There is no desktop experience in Hyper-V. This is basic Hyper-V 101 knowledge here.
To clarify:
Note, that since the guest VMs are Windows based, the licensed and installer files purchased to run those VMs can be used to install the host OS in Desktop Experience Mode and activate using the supplied key.
/sigh
FFS No. this is not how anything works.
The OP is installing Hyper-V Server, as he should. Not Windows Server.
Take a deep breath.
I am suggesting that the OP instead use the OS installer files that came with the purchased license(s) to avoid the expressed frustration with the non-GUI Hyper-V Server.
That better?
Having a GUI for no reason at all will not solve any of the OP's issues that are going on...
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@obsolesce said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
@jaredbusch said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
@jaredbusch said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
@jaredbusch said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
Note that since the guest VMs are Windows based, the Windows Server Standard license covers installing the host OS in Desktop Experience Mode using the Server Standard installer files and activating with the supplied key that came with the license.
It does not work like that.
Please clarify?
There is no desktop experience in Hyper-V. This is basic Hyper-V 101 knowledge here.
To clarify:
Note, that since the guest VMs are Windows based, the licensed and installer files purchased to run those VMs can be used to install the host OS in Desktop Experience Mode and activate using the supplied key.
/sigh
FFS No. this is not how anything works.
The OP is installing Hyper-V Server, as he should. Not Windows Server.
Take a deep breath.
I am suggesting that the OP instead use the OS installer files that came with the purchased license(s) to avoid the expressed frustration with the non-GUI Hyper-V Server.
That better?
Having a GUI for no reason at all will not solve any of the OP's issues that are going on...
Having a GUI avoids the need to delve into PowerShell and CLI to set up a server for the first time. Or, at least trial and error the commands and see the results directly in the managers.
And, if the OP needs this box to go into production shortly, avoids the possibility of unknowingly having something misconfigured.
I'm pulling out. Have a great weekend everyone.
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@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
@obsolesce said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
@jaredbusch said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
@jaredbusch said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
@jaredbusch said in HyperVServer Build:
@phlipelder said in HyperVServer Build:
Note that since the guest VMs are Windows based, the Windows Server Standard license covers installing the host OS in Desktop Experience Mode using the Server Standard installer files and activating with the supplied key that came with the license.
It does not work like that.
Please clarify?
There is no desktop experience in Hyper-V. This is basic Hyper-V 101 knowledge here.
To clarify:
Note, that since the guest VMs are Windows based, the licensed and installer files purchased to run those VMs can be used to install the host OS in Desktop Experience Mode and activate using the supplied key.
/sigh
FFS No. this is not how anything works.
The OP is installing Hyper-V Server, as he should. Not Windows Server.
Take a deep breath.
I am suggesting that the OP instead use the OS installer files that came with the purchased license(s) to avoid the expressed frustration with the non-GUI Hyper-V Server.
That better?
Having a GUI for no reason at all will not solve any of the OP's issues that are going on...
Having a GUI avoids the need to delve into PowerShell and CLI to set up a server for the first time. Or, at least trial and error the commands and see the results directly in the managers.
And, if the OP needs this box to go into production shortly, avoids the possibility of unknowingly having something misconfigured.
I'm pulling out. Have a great weekend everyone.
Misconfigurations happen more via GUI than via CLI.
He's doing this in a Workgroup, so there are many things he'll have to do via CLI and PowerShell even if he had a GUI to work with.
He does not have any requirements in his Hyper-V Host needs that Hyper-V Server cannot fulfil, at least none were mentioned.
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@joel said in HyperVServer Build:
This server build is frustrating...I managed to get the HyperV server installed and able to connect to it via Hyper-V Manager. However when trying to boot the Guest VM via my CDRom (WindowsServer2016)m it tells me the BIOS was locked and the OS was tied to vendor. Note: I was using the original CD that I got shipped with the server!!!
I then tried burning an ISO (generic) to USB but was unable to mount and boot from it as the HyperV Manager couldnt see the USB plugged into the Host! I read about making it 'offline' first but when attempting that, it turns out i couldnt make removable media offline!!
This thing is a nightmare!
Thinking of packing in Hyper-V!Sorry to be late. Me too got such errors. When tried to install the oem version of win server purchased with the machine. In my case I solved by installing from a demo iso and then coverting it in a production system via cmd line.
It was an hpe oem disk which refused to run due to hyperv exposed BIOS. Classic hpe shitwork.Let me dig into the cmds I'll post later.
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Ok this link has the command
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Dont know about your case. In my case the oem version expected few BIOS info masked by hyperv. Either I altered the hyperv registry or I followed the siplier demo to production conversion.
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Minds well start getting use to not having a Desktop environment anyway. Because it will be expected to manage Windows Server 2019 from command prompt, PowerShell, RSAT or Windows Admin Center.
This screenshot is from using Windows_InsiderPreview_Server_17709
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@black3dynamite said in HyperVServer Build:
Minds well start getting use to not having a Desktop environment anyway. Because it will be expected to manage Windows Server 2019 from command prompt, PowerShell, RSAT or Windows Admin Center.
This screenshot is from using Windows_InsiderPreview_Server_17709
Yes, very well right. Days are counted for the Windows GUI
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@black3dynamite said in HyperVServer Build:
Minds well start getting use to not having a Desktop environment anyway. Because it will be expected to manage Windows Server 2019 from command prompt, PowerShell, RSAT or Windows Admin Center.
I remember saying this around 2012.
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@stuartjordan said in HyperVServer Build:
LTSC and GUI definitely go hand in hand. Both meant for the same general audience.
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@scottalanmiller said in HyperVServer Build:
@black3dynamite said in HyperVServer Build:
Minds well start getting use to not having a Desktop environment anyway. Because it will be expected to manage Windows Server 2019 from command prompt, PowerShell, RSAT or Windows Admin Center.
I remember saying this around 2012.
I remember you saying this a lot, I just don't remember the first occurrence anymore.
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I got tired of seeing links here and there saying to do this and that, firewall rules open/closed here and there, add account there, etc., etc... all to no avail and only making things worse and opening security holes.
So I decided to post the working procedure that I use (nicely cleaned up, you're welcome), with the info coming straight from the MS Docs site (linked in references)... From there, I converted everything to be done via PowerShell to make everyone's life better.
You'll notice there really isn't that much you have to do to the host, and the stuff you need to do to the management PC is minimal, but a lot of what you see around the net isn't in there. Why? Because it doesn't need to be.
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@obsolesce Apologies, I had been away for a couple weeks so just got back. I didnt thank you (and everyone else) for the comments and feedback here. @Obsolesce - your blog is so great and useful and I am very grateful for outlining those steps it works a treat (just set this up on a test environment to test it).
What would be great, is if you (or anyone else) can assist in the steps like in the blog of how then to provision a VM.
SO going over this thread, once the connection to Hyper-V Manager is established, we need to build a VM. I'd like to add a couple VM's but want to store the VDHX's on a 'D' drive (which isnt currently showing). When I built the server, I put 4 disks in OBR10 and then created a 100GB partition for the HyperVServer. I have 1.5TB free which i'd like to assign the 'D' drive. How can I connect to do this?I have tried to open Computer Management and connect to the Hypervisor but due to other firewall rules it tells me it cannot be managed.
Any help again on this? I know there's been some info above but it seems so scattered and one 'guide' steps would be useful if possible?
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@joel said in HyperVServer Build:
@obsolesce Apologies, I had been away for a couple weeks so just got back. I didnt thank you (and everyone else) for the comments and feedback here. @Obsolesce - your blog is so great and useful and I am very grateful for outlining those steps it works a treat (just set this up on a test environment to test it).
What would be great, is if you (or anyone else) can assist in the steps like in the blog of how then to provision a VM.
SO going over this thread, once the connection to Hyper-V Manager is established, we need to build a VM. I'd like to add a couple VM's but want to store the VDHX's on a 'D' drive (which isnt currently showing). When I built the server, I put 4 disks in OBR10 and then created a 100GB partition for the HyperVServer. I have 1.5TB free which i'd like to assign the 'D' drive. How can I connect to do this?I have tried to open Computer Management and connect to the Hypervisor but due to other firewall rules it tells me it cannot be managed.
Any help again on this? I know there's been some info above but it seems so scattered and one 'guide' steps would be useful if possible?
Although - this, I believe works well.....
diskpart
select disk 0
create partition primary
select partition 5
format fs=ntfs label="DATA" quick
assign
list disk
list part
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@joel said in HyperVServer Build:
@obsolesce Apologies, I had been away for a couple weeks so just got back. I didnt thank you (and everyone else) for the comments and feedback here. @Obsolesce - your blog is so great and useful and I am very grateful for outlining those steps it works a treat (just set this up on a test environment to test it).
What would be great, is if you (or anyone else) can assist in the steps like in the blog of how then to provision a VM.
SO going over this thread, once the connection to Hyper-V Manager is established, we need to build a VM. I'd like to add a couple VM's but want to store the VDHX's on a 'D' drive (which isnt currently showing). When I built the server, I put 4 disks in OBR10 and then created a 100GB partition for the HyperVServer. I have 1.5TB free which i'd like to assign the 'D' drive. How can I connect to do this?I have tried to open Computer Management and connect to the Hypervisor but due to other firewall rules it tells me it cannot be managed.
Any help again on this? I know there's been some info above but it seems so scattered and one 'guide' steps would be useful if possible?
Happy to help!
Regarding your drive configuration...
There are some local policies you need to adjust and some firewall rules you need to open in order to use Disk Management remotely.I'd recommend installing WAC and taking care of the requirements.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/manage/windows-admin-center/deploy/prepare-environment
