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      bbigford @JaredBusch
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      @jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti WiFi vs... everyone:

      Zero handoff is something that you should never use with a really, really, good reason.

      The UBNT implementation of it was bad 2 years ago. Not looked into it since.

      So if that is something truly required, I would do a lot of research.

      Normally devices will just roll between access points without a need for zero handoff.

      I had issues in the past (Ruckus) where devices would disconnect before reconnecting to a new AP. With their mesh enabled it went away immediately. Rolled through like 3 patches before someone said anything.

      I didn't get a chance to see UBNT back then as I was only messing with Cisco (pre-Meraki), Ruckus, Aerohive, Aruba, etc.

      What is garbage about UBNT zero hand off that I should know about?

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        StorageNinja Vendor @bbigford
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        @bbigford said in Ubiquiti WiFi vs... everyone:

        What is garbage about UBNT zero hand off that I should know about?

        You get stuck with a single channel for that SSID. Can't use the full spectrum.
        That makes GI WIFI sad.

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          bbigford @StorageNinja
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          @storageninja said in Ubiquiti WiFi vs... everyone:

          @bbigford said in Ubiquiti WiFi vs... everyone:

          What is garbage about UBNT zero hand off that I should know about?

          You get stuck with a single channel for that SSID. Can't use the full spectrum.
          That makes GI WIFI sad.

          0_1530628985483_wifi-man.png

          I haven't had a need for channel hopping. If more throughput is needed, I've bonded channels but just kept the hand off on the same channel.

          In very high density areas with users who roam a campus, what kinds of issues have you had with an SSIF having to be on one channel in that case?

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            StorageNinja Vendor @bbigford
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            @bbigford said in Ubiquiti WiFi vs... everyone:

            In very high density areas with users who roam a campus, what kinds of issues have you had with an SSIF having to be on one channel in that case?

            The average college student has something like 8 IP address's. It's not uncommon to have someone with an iPad, a cell phone, and a laptop. Imagine a room of 300 people all shouting in 3 languages. That's campus WIFI for you.

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              dbeato @bbigford
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              @bbigford said in Ubiquiti WiFi vs... everyone:

              @jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti WiFi vs... everyone:

              Zero handoff is something that you should never use with a really, really, good reason.

              The UBNT implementation of it was bad 2 years ago. Not looked into it since.

              So if that is something truly required, I would do a lot of research.

              Normally devices will just roll between access points without a need for zero handoff.

              I had issues in the past (Ruckus) where devices would disconnect before reconnecting to a new AP. With their mesh enabled it went away immediately. Rolled through like 3 patches before someone said anything.

              I didn't get a chance to see UBNT back then as I was only messing with Cisco (pre-Meraki), Ruckus, Aerohive, Aruba, etc.

              What is garbage about UBNT zero hand off that I should know about?

              Also Zero Hand off does not work with any of the AC series of Access Points.

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                stacksofplates
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                This isn't wifi related but a big downside for us is the largest 10 gig switches are only 16 port. For a site with 40 Gb core and 10 Gb everywhere it's a big limitation.

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                  stacksofplates
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                  Also like @StorageNinja mentioned, NAC isn't available either. We currently use ISE but need something to work with some NAC solution.

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                    frodooftheshire @StorageNinja
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                    @storageninja This isn't entirely true anymore. You now have the option for phone support through Ubiquiti's "elite support."

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                      dbeato @frodooftheshire
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                      @frodooftheshire said in Ubiquiti WiFi vs... everyone:

                      @storageninja This isn't entirely true anymore. You now have the option for phone support through Ubiquiti's "elite support."

                      Not for devices already purchased though.

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                        frodooftheshire @dbeato
                        last edited by frodooftheshire

                        @dbeato I know. That's why I said it wasn't "entirely true." If he's looking at a new deployment he would have the option to purchase support. I should have clarified though.

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                          StorageNinja Vendor @stacksofplates
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                          @stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti WiFi vs... everyone:

                          This isn't wifi related but a big downside for us is the largest 10 gig switches are only 16 port. For a site with 40 Gb core and 10 Gb everywhere it's a big limitation.

                          I wouldn't buy 10Gbps ports in 2018. 25Gbps or 100Gbps. Cost is the same for 25Gbps with how the ASICs and optics work.

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