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    • ObsolesceO
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      @mlnews said in FCC Has Approved SpaceX Satellite Launch Plan:

      Finally some good news from the FCC, they have approved the launching of 4,425 low earth orbit satellites by SpaceX to build a global Internet service provider in the sky. SpaceX has said that they hope to have the network live by 2020. SpaceX founder Elon Musk has stated clearly that he will use the network not only to lower Internet cost, improve speeds, and democratize access, but also will undermine the FCC's attempts to create Internet fast lanes and limit access through private parties.

      If all goes as planned, SpaceX will have full global coverage by 2024.

      This honestly cannot come soon enough.

      I was kinda interested in Google Fi, but having to be restricted to some very specific devices to use it is a big turn-off.

      This by SpaceX will be way better by far, and hopefully it will take out all the major ISPs like Comcast/TW/Spectrum/etc, or at least cause reasonable pricing and like you said, undermine fast lanes and other such crap the monopolies want.

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      • EddieJenningsE
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        I’ve never used a satellite Internet connection. What kind of latency does it have contrasted to wired connections?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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          @eddiejennings said in FCC Has Approved SpaceX Satellite Launch Plan:

          I’ve never used a satellite Internet connection. What kind of latency does it have contrasted to wired connections?

          That's the big deal here. Not all satellite is equal. Think about terrestrial, good fiber can be insanely low latency (mine is 2.5ms from the office here) or terrible with DSL (40ms happens.)

          Traditional satellite, high orbit, is like 200ms to 2,000ms. It's ridiculous how long that is. SpaceX is low orbit, so totally different than any other satellite available today. It's like 20-25ms estimated.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in FCC Has Approved SpaceX Satellite Launch Plan:

            It's like 20-25ms estimated

            And this is supposed to be globally. They, from my understanding, won't really have base stations like current satellite systems do.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @coliver
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              @coliver said in FCC Has Approved SpaceX Satellite Launch Plan:

              @scottalanmiller said in FCC Has Approved SpaceX Satellite Launch Plan:

              It's like 20-25ms estimated

              And this is supposed to be globally. They, from my understanding, won't really have base stations like current satellite systems do.

              Right, the theory is that the messages will travel in the satellite network without coming to the ground until they are close to where they need to go. So for some communications, it might go direct from one user directly to another, if both are on SpaceX directly. More likely is short local hops to a single SpaceX transmitter, so still some ground, but highly localized.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in FCC Has Approved SpaceX Satellite Launch Plan:

                both are on SpaceX directly.

                This is the big push behind the pricing, I think. Get everyone on this service and the need for those interconnects becomes less and less.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @coliver
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                  @coliver said in FCC Has Approved SpaceX Satellite Launch Plan:

                  @scottalanmiller said in FCC Has Approved SpaceX Satellite Launch Plan:

                  both are on SpaceX directly.

                  This is the big push behind the pricing, I think. Get everyone on this service and the need for those interconnects becomes less and less.

                  Very true.

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in FCC Has Approved SpaceX Satellite Launch Plan:

                    SpaceX is low orbit, so totally different than any other satellite available today. It's like 20-25ms estimated.

                    I'd have to see that to believe it.

                    I get that on my cell phone data connection... which is to the closest cell tower then to whatever server the test is going to.

                    Closest cell tower may be up to like 45 miles away, while low orbit satellites are a minimum of 100 miles to max of 1,240 miles.

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                    • NerdyDadN
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                      Of course, this directly affects all ISPs, but I'm also curious to see if this will also affect cell phone carriers worldwide. Will they also go bankrupt in time or will they have to adapt to stay relevant? Would cell phines even be able to communicate? Currently no, but in the near future?

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @NerdyDad
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                        @nerdydad said in FCC Has Approved SpaceX Satellite Launch Plan:

                        Of course, this directly affects all ISPs, but I'm also curious to see if this will also affect cell phone carriers worldwide. Will they also go bankrupt in time or will they have to adapt to stay relevant? Would cell phines even be able to communicate? Currently no, but in the near future?

                        It looks like it's being pitched as a competitor to cellular devices.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @coliver
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                          @coliver said in FCC Has Approved SpaceX Satellite Launch Plan:

                          @nerdydad said in FCC Has Approved SpaceX Satellite Launch Plan:

                          Of course, this directly affects all ISPs, but I'm also curious to see if this will also affect cell phone carriers worldwide. Will they also go bankrupt in time or will they have to adapt to stay relevant? Would cell phines even be able to communicate? Currently no, but in the near future?

                          It looks like it's being pitched as a competitor to cellular devices.

                          That'll take a lot of work to get mobile devices able to talk to it. If they can get that cheap and reliable, it'll be the killer thing.

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