Nginx Active-Passive HA

JaredBusch

Nginx does not have to go offline if you have the .well-known routed correctly.

It would still need to restart for the cert to be applied of course.

scottalanmiller

My Nginx doesn't go offline during a cert renewal, do them all of the time.

scottalanmiller

@jaredbusch said in Nginx Active-Passive HA:

It would still need to restart for the cert to be applied of course.

Just a reload, no downtime.

NashBrydges

Maybe I'm going renewals wrong or I'm misunderstanding the process but the renew script has the certbot renew --pre-hook "systemctl stop nginx" --post-hook "systemctl start nginx" line. Wouldn't that take Nginx offline, then renew certs, then restart Nginx? Maybe there's a better renewal method I'm not aware of.

Tbh, I've only assumed Nginx was going offline because of this line but only renewing a dozen or so certs only takes seconds so it isn't something I've actually had a chance to test.

JaredBusch

@scottalanmiller said in Nginx Active-Passive HA:

My Nginx doesn't go offline during a cert renewal, do them all of the time.

Mine does because I have not setup the .wellknown path as I do everything certonly when adding a cert. This means the certbot renew needs to shutdown nginx and run its own websesrver temporarily. It is all scripted with a pre-hook and post-hook to stop and start nginx though. so it is still fully automated.

I need to revisit this as cerbot is smarter now than it used to be.

NashBrydges

@jaredbusch said in Nginx Active-Passive HA:

@scottalanmiller said in Nginx Active-Passive HA:

My Nginx doesn't go offline during a cert renewal, do them all of the time.

Mine does because I have not setup the .wellknown path as I do everything certonly when adding a cert. This means the certbot renew needs to shutdown nginx and run its own websesrver temporarily. It is all scripted with a pre-hook and post-hook to stop and start nginx though. so it is still fully automated.

I need to revisit this as cerbot is smarter now than it used to be.

Yeah, this is the method I use as well.

scottalanmiller

@nashbrydges said in Nginx Active-Passive HA:

Maybe I'm going renewals wrong or I'm misunderstanding the process but the renew script has the certbot renew --pre-hook "systemctl stop nginx" --post-hook "systemctl start nginx" line.

I don't use this part: "--pre-hook "systemctl stop nginx"

JaredBusch

@nashbrydges said in Nginx Active-Passive HA:

Maybe I'm going renewals wrong or I'm misunderstanding the process but the renew script has the certbot renew --pre-hook "systemctl stop nginx" --post-hook "systemctl start nginx" line. Wouldn't that take Nginx offline, then renew certs, then restart Nginx? Maybe there's a better renewal method I'm not aware of.

Tbh, I've only assumed Nginx was going offline because of this line but only renewing a dozen or so certs only takes seconds so it isn't something I've actually had a chance to test.

Yes, that takes Nginx offline.

JaredBusch

@scottalanmiller said in Nginx Active-Passive HA:

@nashbrydges said in Nginx Active-Passive HA:

Maybe I'm going renewals wrong or I'm misunderstanding the process but the renew script has the certbot renew --pre-hook "systemctl stop nginx" --post-hook "systemctl start nginx" line.

I don't use this part: "--pre-hook "systemctl stop nginx"

You have to depending on how you got the cert to begin with.

black3dynamite

@scottalanmiller said in Nginx Active-Passive HA:

@jaredbusch said in Nginx Active-Passive HA:

It would still need to restart for the cert to be applied of course.

Just a reload, no downtime.

Is this what you mean?

certbot certonly --webroot -w /path/to/your/webroot -d example.com --post-hook="service nginx reload"

NashBrydges

@black3dynamite said in Nginx Active-Passive HA:

@scottalanmiller said in Nginx Active-Passive HA:

@jaredbusch said in Nginx Active-Passive HA:

It would still need to restart for the cert to be applied of course.

Just a reload, no downtime.

Is this what you mean?
certbot certonly --webroot -w /path/to/your/webroot -d example.com --post-hook="service nginx reload"

This will work if you define the webroot path which I don't. Separate Nginx server from web servers.

NashBrydges

My initial cert request process looks like this:

certbot certonly -d mydomain.com --pre-hook "systemctl stop nginx" --post-hook "systemctl start nginx" --preferred-challenges http

When prompted, I select 1 to spin up a temporary web server for the issuance and challenge. This as I understand it allows me to not have to name webroot folders anywhere. I've already defined the path of the certs because this is easy to figure out based on the command line that will save the certs in the location for the first named domain so when Nginx restarts, certs and domain are all good to go. I have a separate Nginx server that handles nothing but proxy and SSL services. All sites are hosted on their own Fedora, CentOS or Ubuntu servers. I don't use webroot authentication.

If I setup .well-known path, can this be setup globally for all cert issuances and renewals? I guess I would set this up in my config file for each domain.

scottalanmiller

Yeah, that's nothing like what my initial looks like.

black3dynamite

Using well-known path looks like a better approach.

https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/auto-renewal-with-nginx-without-downtime/7814/2

https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/auto-renewal-with-nginx-without-downtime/7814/4

https://github.com/mbrugger/letsencrypt-nginx-docker/blob/master/README.md

JaredBusch

@black3dynamite correct. this is what I need to setup on my system.

dafyre

server {
       listen         80;
       server_name    my.domain.com;
       return         301 https://$server_name$request_uri;

        location /.well-known/acme-challenge {
            root /var/www/letsencrypt;
         }
}

Is what an example I have on one of mine.

dafyre

Honest question... Why not just rsync /etc/letsencrypt from ServerA to ServerB after the certs are renewed?

JaredBusch

@dafyre said in Nginx Active-Passive HA:

Honest question... Why not just rsync /etc/letsencrypt from ServerA to ServerB after the certs are renewed?

There is not discussion about the second server at this point. it is all about the initial renew.

NashBrydges

@dafyre said in Nginx Active-Passive HA:

    location /.well-known/acme-challenge {
        root /var/www/letsencrypt;
     }

So I understand it well, these lines are ONLY to tell Let's Encrypt which folders to look to for the challenge/response and has nothing to do with any actual site webroot folders. Am I correct? This is just used so Nginx can act as the web server for those challenges/responses.

dbeato

@black3dynamite said in Nginx Active-Passive HA:

Using well-known path looks like a better approach.

https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/auto-renewal-with-nginx-without-downtime/7814/2

https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/auto-renewal-with-nginx-without-downtime/7814/4

https://github.com/mbrugger/letsencrypt-nginx-docker/blob/master/README.md

I just setup that yesterday on my NGINX Proxy.