Licenses for APs and Switches
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I'm making a proposal for my boss to get us off of our Meraki equipment this November when out licenses expire. Currently, we have an MX400, 140 MR32 APs, and 1 MS220-8P (switch). The huge cost for renewing licenses, to me, justify just buying Ubiquity APs and keeping the MX400. Along with the cost of licenses I would also like to put in that requiring licences for APs and switches is not an industry standard, but I wasn't actually sure if that's the case. I don't have enough experience with equipment to make that claim. I'm I right? Would you use that in a point? What else would you add to a proposal?
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More than Cisco does it.
It is a common practice, but certainly not an industry standard.
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@markferron said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
and keeping the MX400.
Why keep it? Clean house totally.
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@jaredbusch He likes the Layer 7 application blocking on the MX. I wanted to bring this up on a separate thread, but since you brought it up :D, I feel like that shouldn't really be an issue right?
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What @JaredBusch said
Just curious: About what amount of recurring costs are we talking about? Just a rough estimate if you don't mind
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@thwr That's actually another issue. I don't really know how the budget works here, and we don't really interact with our vendors. Just guestimation...Amazon has 3 year licences for the MR32 @ $208 each and $120 for the switch. So that's about $29,240 for a set of 3 year licenses.
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@markferron said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@thwr That's actually another issue. I don't really know how the budget works here, and we don't really interact with our vendors. Just guestimation...Amazon has 3 year licences for the MR32 @ $208 each and $120 for the switch. So that's about $29,240 for a set of 3 year licenses.
Wow... I guess they get some discount, but you could buy hundreds of UBNT APs for that anyway.
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...and matching POE switches, which means even more savings.
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Make sure you include the labor in the comparison as well. Hanging new APs can get very costly. I still think you'd come out on top over 5 years... But you don't want to hide that aspect of it.
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@thwr Yeah it's safe to assume we got some sort of discount. But still..yeahhhh
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@coliver said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
Make sure you include the labor in the comparison as well. Hanging new APs can get very costly.
I guess all the wires are already in place. Shouldn't be too hard to replace them
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3 year Enterprise license price on the MX400 is $16k, the Advance Security license is $32k (these are list prices).
As much as I love Meraki (and I do use it), the license pricing is beyond ridiculous...:pouting_face:
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@thwr said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@coliver said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
Make sure you include the labor in the comparison as well. Hanging new APs can get very costly.
I guess all the wires are already in place. Shouldn't be too hard to replace them
Still would be to get someone in a ladder or lift to do the replacement. I've done a 150 AP organization before that was a good week for two people.
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@coliver Definitely something they would like to see. But if I get approved to get something else, I'm working all day and night to get those in and they don't have to pay extra, haha.
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@coliver said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@thwr said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@coliver said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
Make sure you include the labor in the comparison as well. Hanging new APs can get very costly.
I guess all the wires are already in place. Shouldn't be too hard to replace them
Still would be to get someone in a ladder or lift to do the replacement. I've done a 150 AP organization before that was a good week for two people.
The question is: Who should climb the ladder? Probably not someone who bills $150+ per hour.
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@thwr said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@coliver said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@thwr said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@coliver said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
Make sure you include the labor in the comparison as well. Hanging new APs can get very costly.
I guess all the wires are already in place. Shouldn't be too hard to replace them
Still would be to get someone in a ladder or lift to do the replacement. I've done a 150 AP organization before that was a good week for two people.
The question is: Who should climb the ladder? Probably not someone who bills $150+ per hour.
That'll be me. They're cheap, but I know what I'm worth haha.
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@markferron said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@thwr said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@coliver said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@thwr said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@coliver said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
Make sure you include the labor in the comparison as well. Hanging new APs can get very costly.
I guess all the wires are already in place. Shouldn't be too hard to replace them
Still would be to get someone in a ladder or lift to do the replacement. I've done a 150 AP organization before that was a good week for two people.
The question is: Who should climb the ladder? Probably not someone who bills $150+ per hour.
That'll be me. They're cheap, but I know what I'm worth haha.
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@thwr said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@markferron said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@thwr said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@coliver said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@thwr said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@coliver said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
Make sure you include the labor in the comparison as well. Hanging new APs can get very costly.
I guess all the wires are already in place. Shouldn't be too hard to replace them
Still would be to get someone in a ladder or lift to do the replacement. I've done a 150 AP organization before that was a good week for two people.
The question is: Who should climb the ladder? Probably not someone who bills $150+ per hour.
That'll be me. They're cheap, but I know what I'm worth haha.
One day I'll be worth that...one day...
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@markferron said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@thwr said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@markferron said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@thwr said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@coliver said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@thwr said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@coliver said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
Make sure you include the labor in the comparison as well. Hanging new APs can get very costly.
I guess all the wires are already in place. Shouldn't be too hard to replace them
Still would be to get someone in a ladder or lift to do the replacement. I've done a 150 AP organization before that was a good week for two people.
The question is: Who should climb the ladder? Probably not someone who bills $150+ per hour.
That'll be me. They're cheap, but I know what I'm worth haha.
One day I'll be worth that...one day...
A smiley? I guess you are already worth one
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@jaredbusch said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
@markferron said in Licenses for APs and Switches:
and keeping the MX400.
Why keep it? Clean house totally.
I wondered too. Dump that crap.
