Non-IT News Thread
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Why isnt ignoring TZ possible? All transactions done in UTC, no TZ data, everything would be so much simpler.
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@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
will America follow suit?
lol no
Sadly... Now if we as citizens just said screw it and stopped following this bad practice it would go away...
What is the most likely means of achieving this (since ignoring timezones isn't really possible for computers), is to do it a state at a time since we already have two that don't use DST iirc.
Write a letter to the President. Maybe he can add to his list, right under his "Build a wall" list item.
He would say something stupid like "Back in my day, there was only EST and it was better than the 24 TZ we have today."
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Who said anything about getting rid of time zones? We're just talking about getting rid of Daylight Savings.
Time Zones functions as they should.
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Theyre just as stupid as DST
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
Who said anything about getting rid of time zones? We're just talking about getting rid of Daylight Savings.
Time Zones functions as they should.
Yeah TZs are needed. To keep time of day mostly the same around the world. Daylight savings is just pointless.
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@momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:
Theyre just as stupid as DST
So, what? We go back to clocks at the train stations? When ever the sun is directly over us, that is when noon is going to be? Everybody going to a single time would get confusing.
So if somebody in the UK wanted to arrange a meeting with me in Texas, they're going have to figure out when I am up and at work in order to attempt to schedule accordingly. Plus, what would make Greenwich Mean time so special that everybody should go to that? Because they were the first to establish the official time?
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@momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:
Theyre just as stupid as DST
Umm, WTF?
So who gets to decide where UTC is on a timezoneless world?Humans are Diurnal and function based on daylight. This is why things like sundials existed before timezones were thought up.
There is nothing wrong with making "noon" be the local time when the sun is at its zenith for everyone.
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@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:
Theyre just as stupid as DST
Umm, WTF?
So who gets to decide where UTC is on a timezoneless world?Humans are Diurnal and function based on daylight. This is why things like sundials existed before timezones were thought up.
There is nothing wrong with making "noon" be the local time when the sun is at its zenith for everyone.
The other thing is that if you start setting your clock to a time sufficiently far away you end up performing activities in the same day (set of daylight), but are different days (calendar). Not really optimal.
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
@momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:
Theyre just as stupid as DST
So, what? We go back to clocks at the train stations? When ever the sun is directly over us, that is when noon is going to be? Everybody going to a single time would get confusing.
So if somebody in the UK wanted to arrange a meeting with me in Texas, they're going have to figure out when I am up and at work in order to attempt to schedule accordingly. Plus, what would make Greenwich Mean time so special that everybody should go to that? Because they were the first to establish the official time?
I vote that noon for California is when the sun is directly overhead.... I called it first. You all are on your own.
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If you want to establish a timezoneless world, then why don't we all go to military time and get rid of AM/PM junk?
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Lets go one step farther, get rid of the Gregorian calendar and go by Stardates, like in Star Trek.
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You want to get into radical, then get rid of this stupid 24 hour day thing that mostly came from the Egyptians and the 60 minute concept that came from the Babylonians.
Move to a proper base 10 time system.
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
Lets go one step farther, get rid of the Gregorian calendar and go by Stardates, like in Star Trek.
Gods the Gregorian calendar is stupid as fuck.
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@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
Lets go one step farther, get rid of the Gregorian calendar and go by Stardates, like in Star Trek.
Gods the Gregorian calendar is stupid as fuck.
We should be using something that makes sense... like a solar calendar... based on where the earth is in rotation to the Sun. What else could make more sense?
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Current Stardate is 71583.1 based on http://trekguide.com/Stardates.htm. But I think we need to get our regional Star Trek expert in here @PenguinWrangler to make sure that is correct.
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@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
Lets go one step farther, get rid of the Gregorian calendar and go by Stardates, like in Star Trek.
Gods the Gregorian calendar is stupid as fuck.
We should be using something that makes sense... like the solar calendar.
months should be 28 days because of the lunar cycle.
in a perfect scenario years are strictly based on orbiting the sun once and should be unrelated to months directly. but that gets confusing so something needs to account for the difference. -
@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
Lets go one step farther, get rid of the Gregorian calendar and go by Stardates, like in Star Trek.
Gods the Gregorian calendar is stupid as fuck.
We should be using something that makes sense... like a solar calendar... based on where the earth is in rotation to the Sun. What else could make more sense?
Well, since the earth is flat and all (I am being totally sarcastic here. Please don't take me seriously at all) then why don't we just erect some kind of building that would turn the earth into a sundial?
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@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
Lets go one step farther, get rid of the Gregorian calendar and go by Stardates, like in Star Trek.
Gods the Gregorian calendar is stupid as fuck.
We should be using something that makes sense... like a solar calendar... based on where the earth is in rotation to the Sun. What else could make more sense?
Well, since the earth is flat and all (I am being totally sarcastic here. Please don't take me seriously at all) then why don't we just erect some kind of building that would turn the earth into a sundial?
so much win in this...
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@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
Lets go one step farther, get rid of the Gregorian calendar and go by Stardates, like in Star Trek.
Gods the Gregorian calendar is stupid as fuck.
We should be using something that makes sense... like a solar calendar... based on where the earth is in rotation to the Sun. What else could make more sense?
Well, since the earth is flat and all (I am being totally sarcastic here. Please don't take me seriously at all) then why don't we just erect some kind of building that would turn the earth into a sundial?
so much win in this...
We're already part of the way there with the Washington Monument. Just need to make it taller.
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@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:
Lets go one step farther, get rid of the Gregorian calendar and go by Stardates, like in Star Trek.
Gods the Gregorian calendar is stupid as fuck.
We should be using something that makes sense... like the solar calendar.
months should be 28 days because of the lunar cycle.
in a perfect scenario years are strictly based on orbiting the sun once and should be unrelated to months directly. but that gets confusing so something needs to account for the difference.No the Moon rotating around the earth is completely unrelated to the Earth rotating around the Sun.
A year is one complete rotation around the Sun. Months can be split up according to the effects that has on the Earth, such as seasons. Where the moon is doesn't make sense... it has no real effect on earth, maybe the oceans tides at best.
Each lunation is approximately 29 1⁄2 days (29 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes, 3 seconds, or 29.530588 days). Those really don't have anything at all to do with earth rotating around the Sun. So of course it won't go evenly into a "year".
